[nabs-l] I devices accessibility

Mon Jan 28 15:10:32 UTC 2013

I use the touch screen, and my friend does too. unless we have to text a lot, or I have to do email, or use the comunication app. Witch by the way, is voice over friendly. 

NOTHING ABOUT US, WITHOUT US. AUTISTICS RULE 

On Jan 28, 2013, at 2:42, Ari Damoulakis <aridamoulakis at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all
> Very interesting thread this. Here are my opinions on Apple stuff. I
> know some of what I'm going to write might not be the most popular or
> best ways, but it is just what I've found most comfortable, and I'd
> please like to know your opinions, whether I'm just this odd person
> with these ideas or whether some people agree with me on some of
> these. Many of my points might not be too correct, as I'm basically
> trying to learn my IPhone in bits and pieces when I'm not studying,
> and, since I don't really have much expert sighted tech help available
> I'm trying to work much out myself.
> For the first few days the touch screen did take a bit of time getting
> used to, but I actually enjoy using it and I think its a great way to
> use products. Don't worry Ashley, you'll find that the longer you use
> it, the more you'lll start using your memory to have an approximate
> idea where things are on the screen so you'll be using it much faster
> later on.
> It's interesting that as far as I can see most blind people prefer the
> other typing method. Am I the only one who actually rather loves using
> the default?
> For music, if I had to use an apple product I'd use the IPod shuffle,
> but to be honest I rather carry around a stand-alone mp3 player that
> doesn't use touch screen and you can just copy music to. The other
> reason is I actually really hate ITunes, and I know this is just me. I
> know there are jaws scripts available, but I just get so frustrated
> and can't stand Itunes. I've often wondered why, and I've thought of
> some reasons:
> 1. My laptop is not such a new model, about 4 years old, maybe ITunes
> is just slow and frustrating to work with on it?
> 2. Here in South Africa, up until a few months ago we could actually
> not purchase music from the store, only apps, and because I always
> used media player and other players to manage music I just prefer to
> do that and can't bring myself to use ITunes, because I do think that
> it is easier with jaws to manage your music with windows media player
> instead?
> Another thing I'd like to know what you guys think of, is that for me
> it looks as if it is easier and faster to use your notetaker's
> calendar and diary instead of the IPhone, I prefer using the one on my
> laptop. Before I got my IPhone, I used a Nokia with a keyboard, and I
> just find that there are things I could do on it much faster than I
> can with the IPhone, such as entering contacts, finding contacts and
> again the calendar.
> I am very interested to know more about the accessibility of Pages, as
> I am looking for a word processor to use on the IPhone. I never bought
> pages because I once read somewhere a blind person saying that it was
> usable, but also not really. He said VO didn't work well especially
> when you were trying to use longer documents and that you also
> couldn't format text, and if you wanted to manage files, it was
> possible but it took so long that it wasn't worth it?
> Ari
> On 1/28/13, Lavonya Gardner <hotdancer1416 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> pages not only can do that, but can also give u formatts to do whatever u
>> might have to write.
>> 
>> NOTHING ABOUT US, WITHOUT US. AUTISTICS RULE
>> 
>> On Jan 27, 2013, at 22:04, "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Chris,
>>> Ah I see. A simple word processor. Can pages do editing and advanced
>>> things?
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Chris Nusbaum
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 9:49 PM
>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] I devices accessibility
>>> 
>>> Ashley,
>>> 
>>> Yes, the Notes app would be kind of like WordPad or Notepad. It's
>>> used more for writing simple notes and documents such as notes for class,
>>> but it can't do editing or formatting. You can also email a note you have
>>> made in the Notes app.
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ashley
>>> Bramlett
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 6:06 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] I devices accessibility
>>> 
>>> So what is notes and what does it do?
>>> Chris, Maybe you  mean  that it
>>> can do simple writing and editing but not advanced stuff? Kind of like
>>> Microsoft's Word pad?
>>> Word pad can do some writing features but not advanced things like
>>> numbered
>>> lists and I don't think it does bold items either.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: christopher nusbaum
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 4:52 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] I devices accessibility
>>> 
>>> Well, the iPhone has notes built into it, but that's not really a word
>>> processor, as it doesn't allow you to do any advanced editing.
>>> 
>>> Chris Nusbaum
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jan 27, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Sophie Trist <sweetpeareader at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Ii use the touchscreen mostly. Siri has a hard time understanding me.
>>>> Sometimes I connect my phone with my braillenote. It works as a
>>>> display and a keyboard. The iPhone has no wordprocessor built in but u
>>>> can get Pages.
>>>> 
>>>> Sophie Trist
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 27, 2013, at 3:10 PM, "Ashley Bramlett"
>>>> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Many of you have I devices you communicate with now; I've seen many
>>>>> messages sent from i-phones, ipod touches and a few ipads.
>>>>> I have an ipod  and am struggling with the touch screen and staying
>>>>> oriented on it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> My family and I were wondering how blind people most often interact
>>>>> with their i-phone and I touch. I see many messages written from
>>>>> these mobile devices, yet I know the touch screen keyboard is rather
>>>>> small and even for sighted people it can be challenging to use.
>>>>> So I was wondering about your experiences with these devices.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do you use the touch screen and voice over all the time? Do you use
>>>>> siri to perform functions? Can siri activate your itunes collection?
>>>>> I mean can you ask siri to play a certain song and it searches for it
>>>>> and plays it?
>>>>> 
>>>>> How do you type
>>>>> regular messages and text messages? Do you use a braille display with
>>>>> it and if so, which one? Can you type in braille and something
>>>>> translates it and then sends it out on your i-device?
>>>>> What computer functions do these devices have? Does it have a word
>>>>> processor, presentation application and spreadsheet?
>>>>> I know the Ipad has pages; not sure about the others.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I know the Focus 14 display came out from freedom  scientific
>>>>> recently and a few friends have that paired with their i-phones. I
>>>>> also know the braille pen can be paired with it too.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Finally, which aps are most helpful? Is the barcode reader one useful?
>>>>> What does i t cost? What is the difference between Look around Me and
>>>>> Navigan ap?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for letting me know.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'll write my ipod gesture questions next message.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ashley
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