[nabs-l] PDF Files

Tue Nov 5 02:42:45 UTC 2013

Joshua your statement that JAWS will not read a PDF file that is a 
link is not correct.  Granted, this isn't the best way to read a PDF, 
but if the PDF contains text it generally works.

>However, when you read from a web site your computer uses an add-on 
>to your borwser to read the PDF.  Many of us have found that this 
>method isn't quite as reliable or stable as reading a file with the 
>full acrobat reader from your PC;.  However it does work most of the time.

Dave

>At 05:13 PM 11/4/2013, you wrote:
>PDF's are a pain!
>Get this mess!
>One of my favorite Southern Gospel quartets sent me their newsletter 
>as a PDF, and Jaws read the attachment just fine, but if there's a 
>PDF as a link on a Website, it won't read it!
>Good grief!
>What's the deal?
>Thanks, Joshua
>________________________________________
>From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Hannah 
>Chadwick [sparklylicious at gmail.com]
>Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 5:02 PM
>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] PDF Files
>
>Adobe processes the files, but I think it's probably a picture
>because after it is processed, nothing happens.  When I try to
>get Jaws to read it, there doesn't seem to be anything there.
>I've been using Robobraille.
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>From: minh ha <minh.ha927 at gmail.com
>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
><nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>Date sent: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 14:25:10 -0500
>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] PDF Files
>
>What do you mean adobi doesn't read the file? Does jaws say
>"alert,
>document is empty" or something along those lines? If it does,
>the
>document has been scanned in as a picture and there's really no
>way fo
>ryou to read it except use Kurzweil or robobraille to convert
>them.
>
>On 11/4/13, Hannah Chadwick <sparklylicious at gmail.com> wrote:
>  Cindy,
>  I've tried adobe.  However, when I open the file, Jaws won't
>read it.  is
>  there something I can purchase to make it more accessible?
>  Thank you, Hannah
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>Cindy Bennett
>  Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 10:54 PM
>  To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] PDF Files
>
>  Hi Hannah,
>
>  Most of the PDF's that I use are accessible through Adobe's
>accessibility
>  feature.  For me, it comes up automatically when I open a PDF,
>but it is
>  under the accessibility tab under the edit menu.  There are a
>series of
>  boxes, but I just keep the recommended settings, and Adobe does
>an OCR.  I
>  will say that although it is pretty successful with text, tables
>and
>  graphics are messy.
>
>  Most commonly, I have a problem with Adobe combining strings of
>words with
>  no spaces or not interpreting a page that has multiple columns
>as such and
>  so I hear paragraphs out of order.  Also, I have found that hand
>scanned in
>  documents cannot be read well by the Adobe OCR.
>
>  In this case, I use Kerzweil which is an OCR software.  There
>are others
>  such
>  as ABBYY Fine Reader.  A good OCR option can be considered a
>reasonable
>  accommodation if your state has something comparable to a
>Division of
>  Services for the Blind, so funding is typically available for
>it.
>
>  I do not know how to use the OCR function of JAWS 14.
>
>  One workaround would be to see if you can find the file
>somewhere else.  For
>  example, professors would sometimes give out readings from
>journals and I
>  could find accessible versions on my library's website.
>  If they are excerpts from novels, you could look on websites
>such as
>  bookshare.
>
>  That being said, I am not well versed at OCR options that are
>good with
>  math, foreign languages, or any subject with symbols.  I think
>there is a
>  math solution called Infinty Reader, but this may be for
>textbook scanning.
>
>  Cindy
>
>  On 11/3/13, Hannah Chadwick <sparklylicious at gmail.com> wrote:
>  Hello list,
>  I'm currently using Jaws 14 with my windows 7 pc.  It seems that
>a lot
>  of documents, especially academic ones are in pdf files.  I was
>just
>  wondering how you read these file types? I've been converting
>most of
>  them in to word files, however when I do, they become very
>messy.  I
>  look forward to your responses.
>  Best, Hannah chadwick
>  University of California, Davis CA
>
>
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