[nabs-l] Internships

Mon Aug 4 00:56:18 UTC 2014

I think that is good advice. 

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> On Aug 3, 2014, at 8:31 PM, Sofia Gallo <sofiagallo13 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Mikayla, that was her reasoning exactly -- only discuss screen reader accommodations after being accepted
> 
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> 
>> On Aug 3, 2014, at 7:53 PM, Mikayla Gephart <mikgephart at icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ,your counselor probably said that because it is descriminatory if they do not hire you because you are blind, and not telling might give you a chance to show what you can do. 
>> 
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>>> On Aug 3, 2014, at 6:29 PM, Sofia Gallo via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I dom't think my blindness is a big deal either but i was adviced by a counselor not to say anything until i get accepted, which goes against my instincts which is why i ask:)Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 3, 2014, at 6:18 PM, minh ha <minh.ha927 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Um, no, the internship that I had last year the supervisor knew full
>>>> well I was totally blind since I showed up to the interview with my
>>>> guide dog. ... I was fully qualified for the position so they took me
>>>> on despite of reservations they might had about accommodations and
>>>> stuff like that. Personally, I don't think my blindness is a huge deal
>>>> so I'm not afraid of hiding it to the world.
>>>> 
>>>> Minh
>>>> 
>>>>> On 8/3/14, Sofia Gallo <sofiagallo13 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Thanks all!
>>>>> 
>>>>> It looks like I can instal my own version of Jaws on a company computer and
>>>>> reset it after or use my own laptop.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I imagine you didn't say anything about being blind or needing
>>>>> accommodations until afterbeing accepted to the internship? :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 3, 2014, at 12:31 PM, minh ha via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've had various internships over the years that required heavy use of
>>>>>> a computer for research, writing, etc. My employers always allowed me
>>>>>> to use my own computer and they just connected me to their network so
>>>>>> I could access pertinent information. Last year during my sophomore
>>>>>> year of college, I had an internship with a social service non-profit
>>>>>> and my state agency provided a jaws key for me to put on 3 of the
>>>>>> office computers. I was working with confidential client information
>>>>>> at the time so it was necessary for me to use one of their computers.
>>>>>> Definitely check into your state agency to see if they will provide a
>>>>>> jaws key for you to use temporarily during your internship. Otherwise,
>>>>>> I don't think it would be a huge deal for  you to use your own laptop
>>>>>> if your supervisor is ok with it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Minh
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 8/3/14, Cody Bair via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> I have also had two summer jobs in colege. Since I had 3 authorizations
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> Jaws I authorized the software on both of my work computers which worked
>>>>>>> excellent for me as their was no out of pocket cost for my employer and
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> had full use of Jaws.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cody
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 2014, at 11:56 PM, Arielle Silverman via nabs-l
>>>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Sofia,
>>>>>>>> Congrats on the internship!
>>>>>>>> I had three different summer jobs in high school and college that
>>>>>>>> involved computers. Each timeI used JAWS in demo mode; I don't think
>>>>>>>> the USB's existed yet. It was no problem using JAWS in demo mode.
>>>>>>>> Also, if you have JAWS on your home computer, I think you can install
>>>>>>>> a full version on up to three computers. I recently installed my full
>>>>>>>> JAWS license on my new work computer and I just called Freedom
>>>>>>>> Scientific and asked them to reset my license (since I had formerly
>>>>>>>> run it on an old laptop I no longer use) and they did without any
>>>>>>>> trouble or additional cost.
>>>>>>>> Of course you could also try NVDA.
>>>>>>>> Sorry I don't know the answer to your USB question.
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>> Arielle
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 8/2/14, Sofia Gallo via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> It would be a political/policy internship.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> It sounds like a USB would be the best option, but after reading the
>>>>>>>>> Jaws
>>>>>>>>> website, it seems like the USB version doesn't work if Jaws is not
>>>>>>>>> already
>>>>>>>>> installed on the computer and that it's purpose is to apply your
>>>>>>>>> preferred
>>>>>>>>> settings to jaws, and not to use Jaws on a computer that doesn't have
>>>>>>>>> Jaws.
>>>>>>>>> Someone correct me if I'm wrong:)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 2014, at 1:05 AM, Derek Manners
>>>>>>>>>> <dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Depending on your place, your machine is the best bet or getting
>>>>>>>>>> permission to use a USB.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> May I ask what type of intership?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 2014, at 12:35 AM, Sofia Gallo via nabs-l
>>>>>>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the replies.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Jaws in demo mode is a pain, but getting the whole software to use
>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> 2 months doesn't sound very reasonable.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I could always take my laptop and use that.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I have options, but I was wondering what experiences others have had
>>>>>>>>>>> regarding assistive technology and internships. What arrangements
>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>> others made?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the input!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 2014, at 12:12 AM, Joseph Hudson <jhud7789 at outlook.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, I think before I even think about getting a job like that, I
>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>> think about what kind of software that would be putting on that
>>>>>>>>>>>> Machine
>>>>>>>>>>>> whether it be MBVA or John's? Because if they're putting John's on
>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>> and it's all going to be a will to run in demo mode and my computer
>>>>>>>>>>>> job
>>>>>>>>>>>> is extensive I probably wouldn't deal to get much done in a day.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>> reason why I say that is because if I had to restart my computer
>>>>>>>>>>>> every
>>>>>>>>>>>> 40 minutes or restart John, every 40 minutes Alakaina get tiring
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> slowing on my process. So possible, talk to the person or Company,
>>>>>>>>>>>> About
>>>>>>>>>>>> getting the real version. Are you free later that you will be
>>>>>>>>>>>> using.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> hope this helps and if you having me other questions do not
>>>>>>>>>>>> hesitate
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> contact me off off list        n Aug 2, 2014, at 10:45 PM, Sofia
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gallo
>>>>>>>>>>>> via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Has anyone had an internship or short-term job (such as a summer
>>>>>>>>>>>>> job)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that required extensive computer use (such as browsing the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> using Word and other basic programs)? How did this work out in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> terms
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of using assistive technology such as screen readers like Jaws?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you arrange to use your own computer, use the demo mode of a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> software
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or carry a USB version of the software?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm just wondering what experiences anyone has had using assistive
>>>>>>>>>>>>> technology when the job is only short-term since adjusting company
>>>>>>>>>>>>> computers with software may not be practical.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>> recesses of their minds, wake in the day to find that it was vanity:
>>>> but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act on
>>>> their dreams with open eyes, to make them possible." T. E. Lawrence
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