[nabs-l] Training centers
Karl Martin Adam
kmaent1 at gmail.com
Sat Aug 9 14:58:39 UTC 2014
Dear RJ,
I of course agree with you that what matters is not whether you
attended a training center or not but whether you can do the job
you're being hired to do, or more generally function in life. I
haven't attended a training center, so I can't speak to what they
do or do not do. I would like to point out, however, that it is
not really their job nor is it feasible to teach "proper social
skills" in four months while also teaching independent living
skills, orientation and mobility, etc. I'm sure you have talked
to people who went to one or another training center and have
poor social skills, but blind people in general often have poor
social skills (because of the way blind people tend to be
educated and treated differently from the time they are born
among other things). Did you talk to these center graduates both
before and after they attended the centers? That sort of
comparison would be necessary to know whether attending the
centers improved their social skills at all. Even if these
people you speak of were as socially inept when they started
attending the centers as they were when they graduated, you still
can't make the leap to the claim that "you can attend a training
center, and still be as uneducated in blindness skills as before
you attended" unless they also didn't improve their mobility
skills, daily living skills, etc.
Best,
Karl
----- Original Message -----
From: RJ Sandefur via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: "Beth Taurasi" <bethslists at gmail.com>,"National Association
of Blind Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 10:39:19 -0400
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Training centers
My belief is that you can attend a training center, and still be
as
uneducated in blindness skills as before you attended. If I'm an
employer, I
am not going to give a rats behind if you went to lcb or not,
because I
would want to see if you could do the job without having someone
hold your
hand. The NFB training centers do not in my opinion teach proper
social
skills training. I've spoke to some of these center graduates via
skype, and
their social skills in my opinion were poor. Speaking of skype,
My computer
broke down, so I'm using a back up computer which does not have
the ability
for skype. I will be getting a windows 8 computer in a few weeks
God
willing. RJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Beth Taurasi via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: "Miso Kwak" <kwakmiso at aol.com>; "National Association of
Blind Students
mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 6:32 AM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Training centers
There's a problem with guiide dogs and training. There's the
possibility
of separation anxiety for the dog, which one of my FB friends
wrote in a
heartrending manner. She's not getting her dog back due to
traiing.
Beth
----- Original Message -----
From: Miso Kwak via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 00:34:40 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Training centers
Hello,
I am sure some people on this list have experience of attending
an NFB
center with a guide dog.
I know that Pam Allen who is the director of Louisiana Center
for the
Blind did her training when she had a guide dog. I was in
contact with
her regarding related issues and she told me this. You may want
to
contact her.
Miso Kwak
-----Original Message-----
From: Sofia Gallo via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: Matthew Dierckens <matt.dierckens at me.com
Cc: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Sent: Fri, Aug 8, 2014 6:58 pm
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Training centers
That unfortunately doesn't sound like enough to maintain a
working
relationship with a dog.
Are there centers not affiliated with NFB?
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 8, 2014, at 3:21 PM, Matthew Dierckens
<matt.dierckens at me.com
wrote:
You use an NFB straight cane from 8:00 AM to 4:30 PM.
You're free to use your dog to go to and from the apartments,
and
obviously to relieve the dog.
Matthew Dierckens
Macintosh Trainer
Blind Access Training
www.blindaccesstraining.com
1-877-774-7670, extension 3
matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover
course
available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/
On Aug 8, 2014, at 13:55, Sofia Gallo via nabs-l
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
wrote:
Hi
I also have a question about the training center: I really want
to go
to one some time soon because it would help me address areas
that I
need work in like navigating unfamiliar places and improving
independent living skills. However, I've heard that the centers
don't
let us work with guide dogs -- we can only do that in our free
time.
I've felt a lot safer and more independent with my dog, and I
can't
just stop working with her for 9 months, which keeps me from
considering a center even though it would really help me. Does
anyone
have any input or does anyone know someone who has gone with a
guide
dog?
Thanks!
Sofia
On 8/8/14, Candice Chapman via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
Hi Roanna,
You're right. Talking with family and your rehab counselor is
important, but
another important place to start is the NFB center you want to
attend. The
center can be helpful in assisting with issues you may have with
rehab.
Best if luck with your research.
Best,
Candice Chapman
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 7, 2014, at 8:43 AM, Roanna Bacchus via nabs-l
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
wrote:
Dear Nabs Members,
I have a question for all of you. How would you prepare to
attend
one of
the Nfb training centers? I know that you have to discuss
attending one of
these facilities with your vocational rehab counselor since they
are out
of state. I'm assuming that each of you spoke to your families
before
planning to attend one of these centers. I'd like to hear your
stories
about preparing to attend an Nfb training center.
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