[nabs-l] Two questions EDTPA

RJ Sandefur joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
Tue Jun 24 15:44:30 UTC 2014


Sean, are you on skype? RJ
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> Bridget,
>
> I know that Pearson is in the midst of working with us at NFB to improve
> accessibility for their whole line of instructional and testing materials. 
> I
> am not sure if you will be in Orlando for the convention, but they will be
> there. Though it is not quite finalized, I think somebody from Pearson 
> will
> be presenting on the NABS agenda about the accessibility of their 
> products.
> If you are not coming to Orlando, let me know if you have trouble reaching
> the right folks at Pearson and I can try to put you in touch.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sean
>
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>   1. Thank You (Justin Salisbury)
>   2. Re: NABS candidates forum questions (Mary Fernandez)
>   3. Candidates Forum participation informaation (Mary Fernandez)
>   4. Re: Braille being placed on the back burnner (Antonio Guimaraes)
>   5. Re: available one gently used electronic talking dictionary
>      for $100 (Antonio Guimaraes)
>   6. Re: NABS candidates forum questions (Antonio Guimaraes)
>   7. Re: Public Speaking (Antonio Guimaraes)
>   8. Re: Braille being placed on the back burnner (Arielle Silverman)
>   9. Fwd: [BlindAcademics] Doctoral research (Arielle Silverman)
>  10. Re: available one gently used electronic talking dictionary
>      for $100 (Joshua Hendrickson)
>  11. Two questions EDTPA (Bridget Walker)
>  12. Re: Two questions EDTPA (Minhh Ha)
>  13. Re: Two questions EDTPA (Ashley Bramlett)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 23:56:24 +0000
> From: Justin Salisbury <PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu>
> To: "'nabs-l at nfbnet.org'" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>, "List for NABS State
> Presidents (nabs-presidents at nfbnet.org)"
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> Subject: [nabs-l] Thank You
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> Fellow Federationists:
>
> Before I begin the main content of this message, I want to talk with
> everyone briefly about how to read my messages.
> During evening airlight flights, it is customary for passenters to look 
> out
> their windows and view the lights on the ground beneath them. When flying
> between New York and Boston, there remains one stretch of land where there
> is total darkness: the hills of northeastern Connecticut, often called 
> "The
> Last Green Valley." This is where I grew up, and this is where I learned
> many of my speech patterns. Our words are direct and authentic, and we do
> not communicate by inserting meaning between the lines. If we feel
> something, we express it specifically.
> I really appreciate the discussion we've generated about the progress and
> future of NABS, as well as the philosophical relationship between
> organizations and individualism. I like to think deeply about the world 
> and
> am grateful to have friends who will do it with me, especially about
> something so important.
>
> When I asked about transparency, I was truly looking for members' opinions
> to help draw a conclusion about our progress and to help formulate future
> plans. I always want to understand our movement better, and, as Gabe said,
> this is something we have been discussing for a while. I especially
> appreciate the posts of Elizabeth Mohnke, Garrett Mooney, and Arielle. 
> These
> three outlined the needs for improvement, the success we've achieved, and
> the road to get there; I take them to heart.
>
> On the discussion of individualism and organizations, I have also seen 
> great
> comments. I love the ideas about self-awareness. A point that I would like
> to insert is that the individual and organization can strengthen each 
> other,
> and I believe that this is the case in the Federation. I am stronger and
> more successful because of the Federation, and I like to believe that the
> Federation is stronger and more successful because of me.
>
> In some messages on this list, it appears to me that some here think that 
> I
> have some negative feelings toward the rest of our board, and I'm not sure
> how to effectively demonstrate that this is not the case. I still love 
> each
> and every member of the NABS board. Siblings can disagree on things and
> still love each other. Life is too short to hold onto negative feelings.
> Sean has been a mentor and teacher to me, and I believe that I have gotten
> from him what I need in order to serve in his position effectively. The 
> most
> important role of any president is preparing the membership for the days
> after his departure. We have what we need. When I explain the areas where 
> I
> want to focus on strengthening NABS, it does not mean that we are horrible
> failures in those areas; it simply means I am most interested in focusing 
> on
> those areas.
>
> If I am elected President of the National Association of Blind Students, I
> will bring authentic and direct communication with no messages between the
> lines. I want to focus on strengthening the relationship between NABS and
> the National Federation of the Blind and those between the NABS board and
> the state student divisions. I am always thinking about ways to improve 
> and
> do not fear that an effort to improve condemns past progress. Your NABS is
> my NABS, and I want our NABS to be the best NABS it can be.
>
> Sincerely yours,
>
> Justin Salisbury
> Board Member
> National Association of Blind Students
> Email: President at Alumni.ECU.edu<mailto:President at Alumni.ECU.edu>
> Twitter: @_JSalisbury
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 19:59:38 -0400
> From: Mary Fernandez <trillian551 at gmail.com>
> To: justin williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>, National
> Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NABS candidates forum questions
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> Here is the link again:
> https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/Z6W5J5Q
> Thanks.
> And thank you for the kind odds Darian.
> Mary F
>
> On 6/23/14, justin williams via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Okay; can you resend me the email to that?
>> Thanks.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Darian
>> via nabs-l
>> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 7:09 PM
>> To: jsoro620 at gmail.com; National Association of Blind Students mailing
>> list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NABS candidates forum questions
>>
>> Dear all,
>> I don't know about all of you but I'm very appreciative to Mary
>> Fernandez for her tireless work in putting together our mentoring
>> program and candidates forum.
>> Mary is an example of an individual who ran for a board position,
>> didn't get it, but saw that she never really needed it in order to
>> make an impact and to do her part in advancing our cause My hope is
>> that we all can support her by submitting a question or two to use as
>> a part of this election forum
>>
>> Efforts such as this, that the individuals both on and off of the nabs
>> bored undertake both in front and behind-the-scenes are just what is
>> needed to make sure that the organization is being served.
>> We as leaders have the opportunity and obligation to do the best that
>> we can and constantly seek out ways to improve in all aspects of what we
> do.
>> Equally so, our membership has a responsibility to not only seek out
>> ways that the board/division can improve, but to be active
>> participants and helping the division improve as a vehicle for
>> collective action and a mechanism of change is just one part of the
>> national Federation of the blind.
>>   So, let's build and support, learn and grow,, challenge and commend
>> each other.
>> And now... Let's help make this the best candidates forum yet!
>>
>>   Darian
>>
>>> On Jun 23, 2014, at 3:33 PM, Joe via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> When I was an active member of NABS, there is one question I wish
>>> each person running for office could have answered, and it's a
>>> question I should have been forced to answer before I took my spot in
>>> the NABS board almost ten years ago.
>>>
>>> What do you hope to accomplish as a NABS board member that you could
>>> not accomplish as a general member?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Twitter: @ScribblingJoe
>>>
>>> Visit my blog:
>>> http://joeorozco.com/blog
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mary
>>> Fernandez via nabs-l
>>> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 10:05 AM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list; Presidents
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] NABS candidates forum questions
>>>
>>> All,
>>> In lieu of the conversations which have been taking place on this
>>> list, it is a bit surprising that just one person has submitted
>>> questions for the NABS candidates' forum.
>>> The forum will take place on Wednesday 6/25 at 8:00 pm EST.
>>> All of the questions asked of the presidential candidates will have
>>> been questions submitted by you, the membership. So if you have any
>>> burning questions please visit the following link and submit them.
>>> https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/Z6W5J5Q
>>> Take this opportunity to really think about where you want this
>>> organization to go, and finding out which of the candidates would be
>>> the best to take it there. I will be closing the survey at Midnight
>>> tomorrow.
>>> I'll be sending a follow up announcement with the details of the
>>> call, but in the meantime take a minute to submit a question or two!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mary Fernandez
>>> "I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will
>>> forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them
> feel."
>>> --
>>> Maya Angelou
>>>
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>
> --
> Mary Fernandez
> "I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget 
> what
> you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel."
> --
> Maya Angelou
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 20:50:25 -0400
> From: Mary Fernandez <trillian551 at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [nabs-l] Candidates Forum participation informaation
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> Good evening,
> Thanks to those of you who have submitted some excellent questions,
> please keep them coming!
> The forum will take place on
> Wednesday June 25
> at 8:00 PM EST
> It will be moderated by Patti Chang, chair of the scholarship committee.
> WE will be using the NABS conference line:
> Phone: 605-475-6700
> Passcode: 7869673
>
> The candidates participating will be Candice Chapman and Justin
> Salisbury, both of whom are running for the President's position.
> I know that some of you will be disappointed by the fact that we can't
> accommodate other board positions. Though it's something we can
> accommodate this year, this is something that, if the membership is
> interested in, can probably be arranged for future elections. But
> that's something to be decided as a group.
> I remember that back in 2011, when we had an amazing campaign from
> both presidential candidates, Isaiah Wilcox and Sean Whalen, it
> occurred to me, at around 2:00 A.M., that it'd be great to have a
> debate. People often complained that no one knew who was running until
> they showed up at elections, and at that point, 90- seconds wasn't
> enough to get to know a candidate well. That year we had a fantastic
> election, and the close numbers as well as the turn out, demonstrated
> an engagement and interest on behalf of the membership, and the
> excellent job both gentleman had done in campaigning. Lets take this
> opportunity to get to know both of our fellow NABS members. But lets
> also remember what our responsibility as a membership is. There has
> been a lot of back and forth about what NABS has and has not done. And
> without commenting on the board, I'd like to remind all of us, that it
> is our responsibility to shape the organization to what we want it to
> be. As citizens, we must vote, that is the only way we have a voice.
> IN this organization, not only can we vote, but we have direct access
> to those we have elected to represent us. The greatest accountability
> system is not put in place and reinforced by the governing body, it is
> created and maintained by those who decided who would govern. I hope
> that the discussions which have been sparked in lieu of this election
> do not fizzle away when there aren't exciting developments. I hope
> that they continue, that they grow, and that they energize this
> organization. Students and young professionals have the opportunity
> not only to shape NABS but the NFB at large, but the only way to shape
> is to be involved. So please, use all of that incredible energy,
> critical thinking, and creativity to change and improve the
> organization, and to nurture each other's skills and leadership. Don't
> be afraid to think up ideas and call up whoever it takes to have
> someone listen to them. Be ready to implement them. Come up with
> innovative projects which can benefit the blind, and make them happen.
> I hope that one day we will have not two but five or six NABS members
> who want to run for president, and that the competition be intense,
> because each member has contributed so much, that we as members will
> have a hard time choosing.
> All of that was to say to submit questions and call in on Wednesday!
> But I did get a bit inspired...  --
> Mary Fernandez
> "I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will
> forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them
> feel."
> --
> Maya Angelou
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 21:05:54 -0400
> From: Antonio Guimaraes <freethaught at gmail.com>
> To: blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com, National Association of Blind Students
> mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille being placed on the back burnner
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> I agree that braille is alive today.
>
> I don?t subscribe to the argument that technology will break down, and one
> can?t function without it.
>
> Technology and digital braille only means that braille is lighter, ad more
> portable. It is also searchable, editable, and flexible.
>
> Try carrying a braille writer with you at all times. add to that all the
> notes you think you?ll need. Try maintaining a calendar in braille, 
> changing
> appointments in it, and making recurring appointments for repeating tasks.
>
> I tried some of that once, and I could not maintain reliable appointment
> calendar even with an entire page listing date and time. I used a slate 
> for
> that, and it took me time to get out the folder, find the day, read it,
> change it,. I could never err ace, replace, or insert appointments, and I
> ran out of space once I allocated a few lines to a time slot.
>
> This system would not allow me to search for the anticipated NABS
> presidential forum by subject. Finding it would require reading through a
> lot of braille pages, and maybe never finding the thing.
>
> Add the Braille Sense, and most of my note-taking needs are taken care of. 
> I
> use braille functionally, and I?m never giving it up.
>
> See you somewhere at the exhibit hall on Saturday at convention. Wait, 
> that
> was the wrong day. I?ll have to erase that note, and add a new one to
> Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday if I have space on my calendar, if not my
> schedule,  to add it.
>
> With feeling,
>
> Antonio
>
>
> On Jun 22, 2014, at 8:55 PM, Aleeha Dudley via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello RJ,
>> Not for a moment do I believe that Braille has ever been put on the back
> burner. What about all the Braille  displays that we use? Do I think that 
> we
> might rely on our technology a little too much? Yes, but, doesn't the rest
> of society?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jun 22, 2014, at 8:29 PM, RJ Sandefur via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>>>
>>> I feel that Braille is being This was back in 2004. I bring this up in
> order to pose this question. Aren't we as blind people depending on our
> techknollogy to much? What if your computer brakes down, and you have to 
> use
> braille? If you don't know braille, then you can forget about even 
> becoming
> employed! RJ
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 21:11:48 -0400
> From: Antonio Guimaraes <freethaught at gmail.com>
> To: louvins at gmail.com, National Association of Blind Students mailing
> list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] available one gently used electronic talking
> dictionary for $100
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> Joshua,
>
> Are you talking about the Franklyn Talking Dictionary?
>
> I appreciate the post, and would encourage the first person to think they
> need an accessible dictionary to contact Joshua.
>
> This device costs $450 new, if it is even sold anymore.
>
> There is a thesaurus, grammar guide, pronunciation guide, confusibles
> feature, notes list, word list, and some cool games.
>
> I could even use it to correctly spell confusables in the line above.
>
> I just used mine so I don?t misspell confusables twice.
>
> Confused,
>
> Antonio
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 23, 2014, at 4:13 AM, Joshua Hendrickson via nabs-l
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi to all.  I know things aren't really sold on this list, but I was
>> thinking what I have might help someone taking a lot of english
>> classes.  I have an electronic talking dictionary that runs on four
>> double a batteries for $100.  This dictionary has a lot of definitions
>> of words, and also has some fun word games that can be played.  I'm
>> not using it its just sitting under my bed, and I'd like to find
>> someone who can use it.  I have paypal, and will also accept money
>> orders.  I hope I'm not out of line by posting this, and I apologize
>> in advance if I'm doing something wrong.  I can be reached at
>> louvins at gmail.com, and also via phone at 815-209-9817.  If the
>> dictionary is sold, it will help me saving up money for technology for
>> college.  Have a great day all.
>>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 21:19:48 -0400
> From: Antonio Guimaraes <freethaught at gmail.com>
> To: Cindy Bennet <clb5590 at gmail.com>, National Association of Blind
> Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NABS candidates forum questions
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> Indeed it would be most helpful to submit the questions off list for the
> sake of the process. I?d rather not prep or prompt anyone by posting our
> questions publicly.
>
> Antonio
>
> On Jun 23, 2014, at 6:56 PM, Cindy Bennett via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>
>> That's a great question! I hope you submitted it on the survey!
>> Cindy
>>
>> On 6/23/14, Joe via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> When I was an active member of NABS, there is one question I wish each
>>> person running for office could have answered, and it's a question I
> should
>>> have been forced to answer before I took my spot in the NABS board 
>>> almost
>>> ten years ago.
>>>
>>> What do you hope to accomplish as a NABS board member that you could not
>>> accomplish as a general member?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Twitter: @ScribblingJoe
>>>
>>> Visit my blog:
>>> http://joeorozco.com/blog
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mary
> Fernandez
>>> via nabs-l
>>> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 10:05 AM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list; Presidents
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] NABS candidates forum questions
>>>
>>> All,
>>> In lieu of the conversations which have been taking place on this list,
> it
>>> is a bit surprising that just one person has submitted questions for the
>>> NABS candidates' forum.
>>> The forum will take place on Wednesday 6/25 at 8:00 pm EST.
>>> All of the questions asked of the presidential candidates will have been
>>> questions submitted by you, the membership. So if you have any burning
>>> questions please visit the following link and submit them.
>>> https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/Z6W5J5Q
>>> Take this opportunity to really think about where you want this
>>> organization
>>> to go, and finding out which of the candidates would be the best to take
> it
>>> there. I will be closing the survey at Midnight tomorrow.
>>> I'll be sending a follow up announcement with the details of the call,
> but
>>> in the meantime take a minute to submit a question or two!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mary Fernandez
>>> "I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget
>>> what
>>> you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel."
>>> --
>>> Maya Angelou
>>>
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>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Cindy Bennett
>> Secretary: National Association of Blind Students
>>
>> B.A. Psychology, UNC Wilmington
>> clb5590 at gmail.com
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 21:29:08 -0400
> From: Antonio Guimaraes <freethaught at gmail.com>
> To: blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com, National Association of Blind Students
> mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Public Speaking
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> I would add a couple of things:
>
> Respect time limits or suggested lengths.
>
> and speak about topics you know something about, or have a strong interest
> in. You will sound more confident, ad will speak with authority on your
> topic.
>
> I?m a sticker for the time thing. I?ve learned to pay attention to fillers
> like hmms, ahhs, like, and, so.
>
> my membership in toastmasters has been great for improving my presentation
> skills.
>
> Toastmasters is an international public speaking organization, and chances
> are there is a club very close to where you live.
>
> Antonio
>
>
> On Jun 20, 2014, at 5:23 PM, Aleeha Dudley via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I was in FFA in my high school and went to a state public speaking
> competition. My advisor always told me several things to start with. First
> comes posture. Stand comfortably, although do not slouch. Keep your head 
> up
> and try, although it may sound strange, to keep I contact with your
> audience. I accomplish this, as a person with only light perception, by
> constantly looking in different directions. I will focus on a particular
> side of the room at one point, then will turn my head slightly as my 
> speech
> progresses. Next Is your voice. The reason I say to keep your head up is 
> so
> that your voice will project properly out to your audience. If you must 
> look
> at notecards, which can be done, but I prefer to memorize what I am going 
> to
> say, you can definitely use an earbud or something similar to accomplish
> this task if your braille skillsare not what you think they should be. 
> Speak
> clearly, but do not speak too loudly. This was my downfall at the
> competition. I got nervous and spoke too loudly. Although I delivered a 
> good
> speech, the audience was alarmed at the volume of my speech. The next 
> thing
> I will say maybe a little controversial. This involves hand gestures. I
> worked with a sighted person for hours on this, as I did not know what was
> natural and what was not. The goal is to use hand gestures to emphasize
> points in your speech, while making them natural and not too jerky. This 
> can
> be difficult, which is why I recommend practicing a speech in front of
> someone who is sided who would be able to give you pointers. Finally,
> movement. I like to move when I speak, but, when I do, I move with 
> purpose.
> I do not aimlessly walk around the space while talking.  each movement
> should have a purpose, either to engage with another part of your 
> audience,
> or to emphasize the point. I was always told never to step backwards
> deliberately, but this is mainly for a competition. The last thing I will
> say is this. Have fun. Public speaking is great, and if you can relax, you
> can really get a good point across and enjoy doing it.
>> I hope that helps,
>> Aleeha
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jun 20, 2014, at 5:06 PM, Shickeytha Chandler via nabs-l
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Happy Friday All,
>>>
>>> I am wondering if some of you would be willing to share tips and
>>> suggestions for effective public speaking as a blind person. One of my
>>> classes in Graduate School this coming semester involves doing several
>>> speeches. In my undergrad work, I had to do a few, but let it suffice
>>> to say that my public speaking skills were less than stellar. I think
>>> part of it is because of not feeling confident because I can't just
>>> look down and read from my notes (or a teleprompter, lol) like a
>>> sighted person could. My Braille skills are lacking also. I only read
>>> uncontracted Braille slowly. I have had a few suggestions that I might
>>> try, but I want to get as many ideas as possible. My VR counselor told
>>> me about another client who uses a Victor Reader to record speeches in
>>> advance and then has headphones playing while he is speaking, and he
>>> can pause the player as needed. Additionally, I took a PowerPoint
>>> course from the Hadley School last year, and the blind instructor told
>>> me that she uses Blue Tooth headphones to listen to her notes as she
>>> presents. I would love to hear from any of you who have strong public
>>> speaking skills and experience to learn your ideas that might be
>>> helpful to me. Thanks in advance!
>>>
>>> Shickeytha
>>>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 18:59:11 -0700
> From: Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com>
> To: Antonio Guimaraes <freethaught at gmail.com>, National Association
> of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille being placed on the back burnner
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> Without technology, I wouldn't be able to read and write emails and
> text messages in contracted Braille. Nor would I be able to write
> research papers and send them to sighted colleagues using Braille,
> spell-check and grammar-check my students' papers in Braille, etc.
> It's ridiculous to pit Braille and technology against each other
> because technology makes Braille flexible and portable as Antonio
> pointed out. The real problem is that Braille technology is so
> expensive it doesn't make Braille affordable or accessible to all.
> Arielle
>
> On 6/23/14, Antonio Guimaraes via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> I agree that braille is alive today.
>>
>> I don?t subscribe to the argument that technology will break down, and 
>> one
>> can?t function without it.
>>
>> Technology and digital braille only means that braille is lighter, ad 
>> more
>> portable. It is also searchable, editable, and flexible.
>>
>> Try carrying a braille writer with you at all times. add to that all the
>> notes you think you?ll need. Try maintaining a calendar in braille,
> changing
>> appointments in it, and making recurring appointments for repeating 
>> tasks.
>>
>> I tried some of that once, and I could not maintain reliable appointment
>> calendar even with an entire page listing date and time. I used a slate
> for
>> that, and it took me time to get out the folder, find the day, read it,
>> change it,. I could never err ace, replace, or insert appointments, and I
>> ran out of space once I allocated a few lines to a time slot.
>>
>> This system would not allow me to search for the anticipated NABS
>> presidential forum by subject. Finding it would require reading through a
>> lot of braille pages, and maybe never finding the thing.
>>
>> Add the Braille Sense, and most of my note-taking needs are taken care 
>> of.
> I
>> use braille functionally, and I?m never giving it up.
>>
>> See you somewhere at the exhibit hall on Saturday at convention. Wait,
> that
>> was the wrong day. I?ll have to erase that note, and add a new one to
>> Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday if I have space on my calendar, if not 
>> my
>> schedule,  to add it.
>>
>> With feeling,
>>
>> Antonio
>>
>>
>> On Jun 22, 2014, at 8:55 PM, Aleeha Dudley via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello RJ,
>>> Not for a moment do I believe that Braille has ever been put on the back
>>> burner. What about all the Braille  displays that we use? Do I think 
>>> that
>>> we might rely on our technology a little too much? Yes, but, doesn't the
>>> rest of society?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jun 22, 2014, at 8:29 PM, RJ Sandefur via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I feel that Braille is being This was back in 2004. I bring this up in
>>>> order to pose this question. Aren't we as blind people depending on our
>>>> techknollogy to much? What if your computer brakes down, and you have 
>>>> to
>>>> use braille? If you don't know braille, then you can forget about even
>>>> becoming employed! RJ
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> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 19:05:58 -0700
> From: Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>, Blind Talk Mailing List
> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>,
> nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: [BlindAcademics] Doctoral research
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> I think this is worthwhile research; please consider participating if
> you qualify.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Tali Spiegel <spiegeltali at gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 15:36:21 -0400
> Subject: [BlindAcademics] Doctoral research
> To: blindacademics at mailman.rice.edu
>
> Dear all,
>
> I am a doctoral student at the University of Groningen in the Netherlands,
> in the sociology department. Alongside that I am also affected with RP. My
> current research is on the wellbeing of individuals who are losing their
> sight. For that I am looking for individuals who are losing their eyesight
> and are willing to take an online survey. If you think you might have the
> time and are interested in taking part in my study please click on the 
> link
> below. The first page will also indicate in more details who should
> participate and what the study is about. In rough lines, if you are above
> the age of 18, experiencing vision loss and living in the USA you are
> eligible to participate in the study.
>
> https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/HKPHW3R
>
> Many thanks in advance and enjoy your summer,
> Tali
>
> -- 
> T. (Tali) Spiegel MSc | PhD Candidate | University of Groningen | Grote
> Rozenstraat 19, 9712TG Groningen, The Netherlands | T +31 (0) 50 363 6219 
> |
> www.rug.nl/staff/t.spiegel
>
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 21:07:23 -0500
> From: Joshua Hendrickson <louvins at gmail.com>
> To: Antonio Guimaraes <freethaught at gmail.com>
> Cc: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] available one gently used electronic talking
> dictionary for $100
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>
> Hi to all.  Yes, it is a Franklin Language Master as the dictionary is
> called.  I used one of them in the school for the blind where I was
> attending several years ago.  I bought one since I really liked them,
> but I just don't use mine anymore.  It really is a very fun device.  I
> even hooked up the dictionary to an amplifier I had.  Man, was that
> ever loud, it didn't hurt the dictionary at all.  It was fun to make
> the speech echo or repeat itself when I used some effects my amp had.
> I really hope someone can use this.  Have a great evening all.
>
> On 6/23/14, Antonio Guimaraes <freethaught at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Joshua,
>>
>> Are you talking about the Franklyn Talking Dictionary?
>>
>> I appreciate the post, and would encourage the first person to think they
>> need an accessible dictionary to contact Joshua.
>>
>> This device costs $450 new, if it is even sold anymore.
>>
>> There is a thesaurus, grammar guide, pronunciation guide, confusibles
>> feature, notes list, word list, and some cool games.
>>
>> I could even use it to correctly spell confusables in the line above.
>>
>> I just used mine so I don?t misspell confusables twice.
>>
>> Confused,
>>
>> Antonio
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 23, 2014, at 4:13 AM, Joshua Hendrickson via nabs-l
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi to all.  I know things aren't really sold on this list, but I was
>>> thinking what I have might help someone taking a lot of english
>>> classes.  I have an electronic talking dictionary that runs on four
>>> double a batteries for $100.  This dictionary has a lot of definitions
>>> of words, and also has some fun word games that can be played.  I'm
>>> not using it its just sitting under my bed, and I'd like to find
>>> someone who can use it.  I have paypal, and will also accept money
>>> orders.  I hope I'm not out of line by posting this, and I apologize
>>> in advance if I'm doing something wrong.  I can be reached at
>>> louvins at gmail.com, and also via phone at 815-209-9817.  If the
>>> dictionary is sold, it will help me saving up money for technology for
>>> college.  Have a great day all.
>>>
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>>
>
>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 22:26:45 -0400
> From: Bridget Walker <bridgetawalker13 at aol.com>
> To: "nabs-l at nfbnet.org" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [nabs-l] Two questions EDTPA
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> Hi all,
> Within the next three semesters I will be officially completing my BA 
> degree
> in education while simultaneously starting my first masters degree. I 
> start
> grad school this fall even though I am not quite done with undergrad.
> With this in mind my teacher certification tests are right around the
> corner. I must take three. One is the ALST which is taking the place of 
> the
> LAST. This is due to the common core shift. The second is the CST in
> English. The third which is the one I am most concerned about is the 
> EDTPA.
> The EDTPA is a portfolio completed during the capstone or duration 
> student
> teaching. There are lesson plans, diagnostic criteria, and the worst of
> videos which need to be uploaded to this portfolio. The portfolio is
> reviewed by the board of education so it has to be spot on.
> I know the EDTPA comes from Pearson. Are there any education majors going
> through this? How do I go about getting accommodations for this because it
> is a test. I will need a platform compatible to a screen reader.
> I asked my college but, when it comes to state testing accommodations no 
> one
> knows what to do.
> Any help is appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Bridget
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 22:41:54 -0400
> From: Minhh Ha <minh.ha927 at gmail.com>
> To: Bridget Walker <bridgetawalker13 at aol.com>, National Association of
> Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Two questions EDTPA
> Message-ID: <6F374CEA-A13A-48C4-A69F-47F6A64EA8C4 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Hi Bridget,
>
> I don't know anything about the EDTPA, but Pearson has a whole 
> accessibility
> division that handles stuff like this. You should get in touch with them 
> and
> see what kind of support they offer. I've worked with them before for an
> online platform thing I was using for hs and they were very helpful.
>
> Minh
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 23, 2014, at 10:26 PM, Bridget Walker via nabs-l
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>> Within the next three semesters I will be officially completing my BA
> degree in education while simultaneously starting my first masters degree. 
> I
> start grad school this fall even though I am not quite done with 
> undergrad.
>> With this in mind my teacher certification tests are right around the
> corner. I must take three. One is the ALST which is taking the place of 
> the
> LAST. This is due to the common core shift. The second is the CST in
> English. The third which is the one I am most concerned about is the 
> EDTPA.
>> The EDTPA is a portfolio completed during the capstone or duration
> student teaching. There are lesson plans, diagnostic criteria, and the 
> worst
> of videos which need to be uploaded to this portfolio. The portfolio is
> reviewed by the board of education so it has to be spot on.
>> I know the EDTPA comes from Pearson. Are there any education majors going
> through this? How do I go about getting accommodations for this because it
> is a test. I will need a platform compatible to a screen reader.
>> I asked my college but, when it comes to state testing accommodations no
> one knows what to do.
>> Any help is appreciated.
>> Thanks,
>> Bridget
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
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> Message: 13
> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 22:47:03 -0400
> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> To: "Bridget Walker" <bridgetawalker13 at aol.com>, "National
> Association
> of Blind Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Two questions EDTPA
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>
> hi,
> wow, a ba in education! which part of education?
> I tried it but was so discouraged. observing kids did not work so well for
> one thing. I also had an assignment in a reading class to read 
> interactively
>
> to a child and I had no support.  they did not give me resources to find
> kids and I new none; so, finally in despiration my Ra found one cause I
> asked her.
> I ran out of time to do the assignment. Most of the braille books I found
> were those he heard already and some of the time he was fidgity or moving
> about in front of me so I could not tell if he was listening well.
> Being limited to braille books really sucked as it really limited my
> selection.
>
> I  did not even do the running record assessment because I had no kid to 
> do
> it with nor did I really know how to complete it nonvisually.
> It was overwelming and discouraging.
>
> To answer your question, I don't know. my experience with a pearson online
> software was  not positive; myMathLab wasn't assessible. I'm wondering if
> you could use a reader. that would be my best suggestion for an 
> accomodation
>
> particularly with a video.
> What will you study for the masters?
>
> Good luck.
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Bridget Walker via nabs-l
> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 10:26 PM
> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [nabs-l] Two questions EDTPA
>
> Hi all,
> Within the next three semesters I will be officially completing my BA 
> degree
>
> in education while simultaneously starting my first masters degree. I 
> start
> grad school this fall even though I am not quite done with undergrad.
> With this in mind my teacher certification tests are right around the
> corner. I must take three. One is the ALST which is taking the place of 
> the
> LAST. This is due to the common core shift. The second is the CST in
> English. The third which is the one I am most concerned about is the 
> EDTPA.
> The EDTPA is a portfolio completed during the capstone or duration 
> student
> teaching. There are lesson plans, diagnostic criteria, and the worst of
> videos which need to be uploaded to this portfolio. The portfolio is
> reviewed by the board of education so it has to be spot on.
> I know the EDTPA comes from Pearson. Are there any education majors going
> through this? How do I go about getting accommodations for this because it
> is a test. I will need a platform compatible to a screen reader.
> I asked my college but, when it comes to state testing accommodations no 
> one
>
> knows what to do.
> Any help is appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Bridget
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
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