[NABS-L] Please read if you haven't yet updated to iOs 13

[Littlefield, Tyler]

I misspoke in my email; please forgive me, I hadn't had coffee.
My point was that no one should be using it because they're beholden to 
an organization, which I said a second time in the second paragraph. Use 
what works for you. If that's KNFB, great. IF that's another app, you 
shouldn't be shamed for using that app.


On 9/23/2019 11:03 AM, Karl Martin Adam wrote:
> Perhaps we can let people use what works for them without insisting 
> that everyone needs to use something or no one should use that thing?
>
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> Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Please read if you haven't yet updated to iOs 13
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> I'm a bit baffled by this email. I can't understand parts of it, but the
> concerning issue for me here is that you're pushing KNFB reader. No one
> should be using it; it's fallen behind, and there are many many better
> alternatives. Just because we push a program and an app in an
> organization shouldn't mean that people are stuck using it if it doesn't
> compete with other applications.
>
> As a blind person, I have many tools in my independence toolbox, many of
> which are on my phone; Voicedream scanner, Seeing AI, etc. I will use
> whatever works best for me to allow me to be productive and work well,
> and being beholden to a single app which has fallen far behind in this
> space because an organization which I belong to pushes it is not my idea
> of productive nor independent.
>
> On 9/22/2019 9:43 PM, maurice.mines via NABS-L wrote:
> Hi, have you tried using Knfbreader? That�셲 what you should be using!
> I know it�셲 great and wonderful and supposedly cold or use upstate one
> else uses but we have worked tirelessly in this organization to try
> and and make it work for all of us and the blind as community at
> large. I found this application to be outstanding. Just a suggestion.
>
> If your initial version of wire was 13 some problems, from what I
> tested obviously issues are actually not that large. Also baron mind
> that the operating system world get and update on Tuesday. So if you
> can get through Monday with some of these work arounds, whenever you
> get a free moment, more like about 20 minutes to half an hour or so,
> you can update your phone and hopefully things will be substantially
> better. That�셲 all I can say at this time.
>
> Sincerely Maurice Mines.
> Check anyone wish to ask me questions off List, there are two ways
> reaching me. The first is calling a relay number for the deaf, that
> number is 661-246-3110.
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>
>
>
> On 22 Sep 2019, at 14:44, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> I hope you have had a great start to the school year.
> I updated to iOS 13 from iOS 12 on my iPhone 8. I'm experiencing some
> VoiceOver issues which, although I can mostly work around them, would
> have made me reconsider updating, so I would highly recommend, for
> these of you who haven't yet updated, not to do so.
> First, you can no longer read PDF files on the Apple Books app. I
> used to love doing this because it allowed me to navigate files
> easily, search for page numbers, and only show one page at a time.
> The phone will just freeze at the text. (Note that books from the
> Apple store will still work). I'm fortunate to have a Braillenote
> which will allow me to access the relatively large textbook I need,
> but I would still, in hindsight, not have updated yet.
> The second thing (although this is much more minor) is that you can't
> log in to Amazon any longer with the iPhone. The password field goes
> blank after you type it in, so that the only two ways to log in would
> be with a computer or with sighted assistance.
> I just thought I'd let you all know.
> Vejas
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