[nagdu] guide dog schools and dogs growling and barking

Thu Nov 13 20:31:29 UTC 2008

It is good that we are having this topic because I have this problem with my
leader dog myrtle barking and growling at other dogs.

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Pickrell, Rebecca M. <
Rebecca.Pickrell at ngc.com> wrote:

> Thank you.
> I read it as Cheryll having the problem but that was just my take on the
> note.
> Either way, this has been a good discussion, and I've enjoyed the topic.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Charlene Ota
>  Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:10 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog schools and dogs growling and barking
>
> Rebecca, I guess that comment was to address the possibility that Cheryl
> might be wondering why someone retired their dog and she might have
> hearad that it was due to barking and growling but didn't get any
> details.
> Sometimes we don't get the whole story and it might sound strange that a
> dog is retired because of growling and barking. So we just don't always
> have the whole story.  That's what I meant by that.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Pickrell, Rebecca M.
> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:11 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog schools and dogs growling and barking
>
> Charleen wrote;
> There's always that special situation that sounds so strange to the rest
> of us, but when you look at it, sometimes it can't be helped.
> Rebecca writes; Such as?
> Can you provide some additional detail into the statement?
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Charlene Ota
> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:36 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog schools and dogs growling and barking
>
> My dog barks a little when someone comes in our yard or to the door but
> that's about it.  Heavens!  I sure wouldn't retire the boy for that for
> goodness sake!  (smile!)  Oh, and once at our local NFB convention, in a
> little movie thing some dog barked and he did that half bark thing maybe
> you call it a mumble/bark or something and I told him to be quiet but
> that was it.  No big deal!
>
> On a more serious side of it, though, I think it is kind od frustrating
> when dogs bark out in public, you know, the full on barking at other
> dogs in restaurants and such.  I wish people would at least attempt to
> control such behavior and I've seen some who do and some who don't. I
> guess if it really gout out of hand and couldn't be stopped it might be
> reason for a person to retire the dog because it isn't good behavior out
> in public. It's something that would surely have to be looked at in
> context. There's always that special situation that sounds so strange to
> the rest of us, but when you look at it, sometimes it can't be helped.
>
> Charlene
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of craig.borne at dot.gov
> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 5:41 AM
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog schools and dogs growling and barking
>
> Doesn't it matter in what situation the dog growls or barks?  Ollie may
> growl or bark at another dog, if that other dog is off leash and in
> Ollie's face.  Under that set of circumstances, I can't say I blame him.
>
> Ollie is also in the habit of barking when our door bell rings or
> someone knocks at our door (not when the same is done when we are
> visiting others at their home).  At first, I tried to curb this
> behavior, but then I came to the conclusion that I actually like him
> alerting me to when someone is at the door.
>
> Barking and growling at someone or something on the other side of the
> street or on leash is not a very good trait in a guide dog, but the
> alternatives described above frankly do not bother me, regardless of
> whether or not the dog school agrees.
>
> Craig
>
> Craig Borne
> NHTSA/DOT
> (202) 493-0627
> craig.borne at dot.gov
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of cheryl echevarria
> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 9:28 AM
> To: nagdu
> Cc: New York Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: [nagdu] guide dog schools and dogs growling and barking
>
> I am not a liberty to mention names or dogs or schools.
>
> But there has been some talk and I would like to ask.
>
> hypothetically speaking, if a dog growls or barks, should the school
> tell you to retire your dog, I mean I own maxx I had that option but
> lets say you don't own your dog out right, and the dog is a good worker
> other than the little growls and barking.  Is that any reason to retire
> a dog.
>
> Thank you.\
>
> Cheryl Echevarria
> Treasurer
> National Federation of the Blind
> Greater Long Island Chapter
>
>
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