[nagdu] guiding eyes application question

Margo and Elmo margo.downey at verizon.net
Sun Apr 19 18:59:47 UTC 2009


We are asked to bring our health insurance stuff to the Seeing eye when we 
come to class and they make copies of it.

margo and elmo
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "JULIE PHILLIPSON" <jbrew48 at verizon.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] guiding eyes application question


> Marion anytime you go to a doctor you are asked for health insurance 
> information.  If you should need to see a doctor during training I would 
> think it would be helpful to have this information in your file.  Let me 
> give you an example because this was a real situation when I was in 
> training for my second dog.  We were all out for dinner one evening and I 
> was sitting next to an older gentleman in the class.  After a while  it 
> came time for desert and he was talking quite reasonably to someone, but 
> what he was saying just wasn't right.  He ordered more spaghetti for 
> desert.  I then was talking to him and I could tell he wasn't even hearing 
> me.  I got the instructors attention and said I think something is wrong 
> and we need to go. He got the gentleman out to the van and I got in with 
> him while the rest of the class got ready to go.  Once the rest of us were 
> back to the school the instructor took him to the hospital.  It turned out 
> that he was having a stroke.  He was not in any condition to have given 
> his health insurance information and many times doctors will not treat 
> someone before they have that information.  You may see that as being 
> paternalistic but I would rather they have that information up front 
> rather then wait for an emergency situation to develop.  A lot of folks 
> who are diabetic are in every class and like it or not sometimes things 
> happen.  In my first class one guy was diabetic and had very pour control 
> of his sugar levels mostly because he just didn't take care of himself. 
> We need to realize that health conditions do happen and not everyone is 
> super healthy.
> Julie Phillipson
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Marion & Martin" <swampfox1833 at verizon.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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> Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 1:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guiding eyes application question
>
>
>> Dear All,
>>    I find this exchange very interesting. Why do they need to know this 
>> information? I would like to know if other schools ask for it and the 
>> purpose for the need to know. Does this sound a little paternalistic? How 
>> does underlying beliefs about the capacities of blind people get 
>> transmitted by some of the guide dog school's policies and practices. Do 
>> you also find it interesting that these attitudes and beliefs about our 
>> capabilities are manifested in paternalistic, custodial ownership 
>> policies? Need we connect the dots?
>>
>> Fraternally,
>> Marion Gwizdala
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "JULIE PHILLIPSON" <jbrew48 at verizon.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 10:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guiding eyes application question
>>
>>
>>> hmm, I don't know but I would suppose it is for health insurance reasons 
>>> so they know who your provider is.
>>>
>>> Julie Phillipson
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Sarah" <sarahandfamily at live.com>
>>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 8:50 PM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] guiding eyes application question
>>>
>>>
>>>>    hello. Is there a reason guiding eyes requires the name of your 
>>>> insurance provider and the policy number on the application for first 
>>>> time appplicants?
>>>>    Sarah
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