[nagdu] Fake service dogs news story
William ODonnell
william.odonnell1 at yahoo.com
Wed Dec 2 04:16:49 UTC 2009
Good evening list,
Where is the orriginal link for this story?
--- On Tue, 12/1/09, Marion & Martin <swampfox1833 at verizon.net> wrote:
> From: Marion & Martin <swampfox1833 at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fake service dogs news story
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 9:42 PM
> Albert,
> You are putting our message out there
> very clearly! The reason we have such events as White Cane
> Safety Day, Meet the Blind Month, produce and air our Public
> Service Announcements, write news releases, publish Kernel
> Books, have scores of websites, hold issue specific
> seminars, and everything else we do, is to remove the
> barriers we face as blind people. These barriers are
> attitudinal in nature, not inherent in our blindness.
> If it is suggested that we are not
> working to modify the public perception of blindness,
> this is not an accurate statement. It is, in fact, the
> most important initiative of the NFB! At the same time, the
> more members we have standing on the barricades of ignorance
> and prejudice, the more rapidly we will achieve our goal! I
> often quote Kenneth Jernigan's statement, "Come! Join me on
> the barricades and we will make it all come true!"
>
> Fraternally yours,
> Marion Gwizdala
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Albert J Rizzi" <albert at myblindspot.org>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide
> Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 11:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fake service dogs news story
>
>
> > Julie,
> >
> > I do not discredit the advancements made at all. I
> have been doing my
> > research, at the suggestion of well placed nfb members
> such as marc
> > ricobbono and ohllie cantos. While I know that
> 99% if not 100% of the
> > legislative efforts were and have been the brain child
> and the sweat,. Blood
> > and tears of each and every member, past and present
> of the nfb, without
> > reaching out to society to invite them to
> reexamine blindness through a
> > looking glass inclusive of those advancements coupled
> with technological
> > advancements then we as the torch bearers are not
> doing our part to ensure
> > the cementing of those efforts to ensure equal access
> for our people.
> >
> > Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
> > CEO/Founder
> > My Blind Spot, Inc.
> > 90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
> > New York, New York 10004
> > www.myblindspot.org
> > PH: 917-553-0347
> > Fax: 212-858-5759
> > "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't
> interrupt the one who is
> > doing it."
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf
> > Of JULIE PHILLIPSON
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 11:35 AM
> > To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of
> Guide Dog Users
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fake service dogs news story
> >
> > Albert I hope you will take the time to more
> completely explore the nfb.org
> > website. There is a wealth of information there
> and most importantly our
> > legislative activities. Where do you think all
> the rights we have gained
> > have come from. There are fifty thousand plus
> members out there that have
> > been working on all of the issues you have identified
> for over 60 years, and
> >
> > we make progress as a collective action group.
> We or rather our national
> > headquarters and national board of directors choose a
> few issues they
> > believe to be of the most importance and that is what
> we all work on as a
> > national group. Each state does the same within
> each state.
> > Julie Phillipson
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Albert J Rizzi"
> <albert at myblindspot.org>
> > To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of
> Guide Dog Users'"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 8:31 AM
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fake service dogs news story
> >
> >
> >> Well then you have much to offer and teach me as I
> try to move the message
> >> out from our individual experiences and hopefully
> exponentially. Guides
> >> are
> >> just one part of the message, we need to inform
> and educate all people of
> >> all visual acuities on technologies,
> legislations, Braille, how our
> >> students are not being prepared or considered as
> integral parts of the
> >> whole
> >> of society, we need to educate our peers on their
> rights, and how best to
> >> self advocate while working to dispel antiquated
> beliefs about our
> >> abilities
> >> and to address the innate fear that everyone
> has about vision loss. It is
> >
> >> a
> >> tall order, but I am a tall man with broad
> shoulders.
> >>
> >>
> >> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
> >> CEO/Founder
> >> My Blind Spot, Inc.
> >> 90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
> >> New York, New York 10004
> >> www.myblindspot.org
> >> PH: 917-553-0347
> >> Fax: 212-858-5759
> >> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't
> interrupt the one who is
> >> doing it."
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf
> >> Of Margo and Arrow
> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 8:11 AM
> >> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association
> of Guide Dog Users
> >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fake service dogs news story
> >>
> >> albert, we've been educating for a long time via
> talk and action. We must
> >> continue to do that. We have been educating
> and acting on things since
> >> the
> >> first dog guide entered this country and we won't
> stop. We have been
> >> mobilizing and such.
> >>
> >> Margo and Arrow
> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "JULIE
> PHILLIPSON" <jbrew48 at verizon.net>
> >> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association
> of Guide Dog Users"
> >> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 7:15 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fake service dogs news story
> >>
> >>
> >>> Albert I hope you are willing to joint in this
> effort that we have been
> >>> doing for the last 80 plus years in this
> country.
> >>>
> >>> Julie Phillipson
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Albert J
> Rizzi" <albert at myblindspot.org>
> >>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National
> Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> >>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 11:14 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fake service dogs news
> story
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Well then perhaps it is time for us to
> inform and educate our community
> >>>> on
> >>>> their civil liberties and open the door of
> opportunity for the blind
> >>>> rather
> >>>> then beating a drum presuming
> discriminatory practices when many of the
> >>>> members of our community are not verse in
> the laws presently in place to
> >>>> ensure equality and access for any and all
> of us navigating life with a
> >>>> specific challenge or two. Education
> for both the sighted and the blind
> >>>> needs to be the focus in all things if
> what you say is true. If there
> >>>> are
> >>>> members of the community who do not know
> their rights, perhaps we could
> >>>> mobilize a social paradigm shift that
> educates all people on
> >>>> accessibility,
> >>>> technologies and the immense opportunities
> which come with the manner
> >>>> with
> >>>> which we see things as blind people.
> >>>>
> >>>> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
> >>>> CEO/Founder
> >>>> My Blind Spot, Inc.
> >>>> 90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
> >>>> New York, New York 10004
> >>>> www.myblindspot.org
> >>>> PH: 917-553-0347
> >>>> Fax: 212-858-5759
> >>>> "The person who says it cannot be done,
> shouldn't interrupt the one who
> >>>> is
> >>>> doing it."
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
> >>>> Behalf
> >>>> Of Julie J
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 9:11 AM
> >>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National
> Association of Guide Dog Users
> >>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fake service dogs
> news story
> >>>>
> >>>> Albert,
> >>>>
> >>>> I know of disabled folks who use service
> animals that are Yorkies or Pit
> >>>> Bulls. They are not all that common,
> but if it works for that
> >>>> individual,
> >>>> why not?
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't understand why you think that
> people who want to commit fraud by
> >>>> passing their pet as a service animal
> don't know the laws. There's
> >>>> loads
> >>>> of
> >>>>
> >>>> disabled people using fully trained
> service animals that have no clue
> >>>> about
> >>>> their rights under the law. Likewise
> there's fraudulent people who know
> >>>> the
> >>>>
> >>>> law quite well.
> >>>>
> >>>> How do you tell the "legitimate" service
> animals from the "fake" ones?
> >>>> Not all service animals do the same
> tasks. Even within service animals
> >>>> of
> >>>> the same variety, guide dogs for example,
> there is still a lot of
> >>>> variables.
> >>>>
> >>>> Who trains the individuals who get to make
> the determination between the
> >>>> real ones and the fake ones? How do
> you ensure personal privacy during
> >>>> this
> >>>>
> >>>> process? How does this work when
> traveling between
> >>>> states/counties/cities?
> >>>> How does getting a certification/ID/tag
> ensure that the dog will behave
> >>>> appropriately the next week, the next
> year, or in situations different
> >>>> from
> >>>>
> >>>> those in the test? Who pays for all
> of this? How will it not be a
> >>>> burden
> >>>> to those disabled people who do not attend
> a residential training
> >>>> program?
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm not opposed to the idea of
> verification of service animals in some
> >>>> way,
> >>>>
> >>>> but I haven't yet come across answers to
> all the above questions that
> >>>> would
> >>>> allow me to feel comfortable supporting a
> certification process.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'd love to hear your thoughts.
> >>>> Julie
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Albert
> J Rizzi" <albert at myblindspot.org>
> >>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National
> Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> >>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:35
> PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fake service dogs
> news story
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> I suppose you can make an argument for
> any and all instances where you
> >>>>> think
> >>>>> your rights are being violated. But as
> I stated, it seems to me that
> >>>>> this
> >>>>> is
> >>>>> an attempt to control liars and those
> attempting to mislead. As you
> >>>>> said
> >>>>> federal laws trump codes and such, and
> you as an informed and educated
> >>>>> individual verse in the laws, as are
> the police, or at least we should
> >>>>> hope,
> >>>>> I do draw attention to the learning
> experience at the ice cream parlor
> >>>>> we
> >>>>> all discussed, should hope and rest
> assured that we may not be denied
> >>>>> access
> >>>>> anywhere we travel. Yet, someone
> who attempts to mislead will not know
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> law and should and must be held
> accountable to not having their pet
> >>>>> accompany them where our service
> animals do. How would you suggest
> >>>>> combating the misleading individuals
> who try to pass of yorkies and or
> >>>>> pit
> >>>>> bulls as service animals? .
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
> >>>>> CEO/Founder
> >>>>> My Blind Spot, Inc.
> >>>>> 90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
> >>>>> New York, New York 10004
> >>>>> www.myblindspot.org
> >>>>> PH: 917-553-0347
> >>>>> Fax: 212-858-5759
> >>>>> "The person who says it cannot be
> done, shouldn't interrupt the one who
> >>>>> is
> >>>>> doing it."
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
> >>>>> Behalf
> >>>>> Of Marion & Martin
> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009
> 7:33 PM
> >>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National
> Association of Guide Dog Users
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fake service dogs
> news story
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Albert,
> >>>>> The problem with the tag
> might be the challenges it would cause for
> >>>>> those of us from another jurisdiction
> who do not have such a tag. If I
> >>>>> travel to this area with my guide dog
> and am questioned about such a
> >>>>> tag,
> >>>>> would I be denied access because they
> are imposing more restrictions
> >>>>> upon
> >>>>> me
> >>>>>
> >>>>> than the law allows? The ADA protects
> me no matter where I travel in
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> U.S. and its territories. If the ADA
> states there is no documentation
> >>>>> required for access and a local
> jurisdiction imposes a restriction upon
> >>>>> me,
> >>>>> this jurisdiction is in violation of
> my rights under Federal law. Even
> >>>>> if
> >>>>> the tag is an option, some public
> accommodations may see it as a
> >>>>> requirement; thus the local
> law/ordinance has the effect of creating
> >>>>> discrimination against me by confusing
> the public on this issue.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Fraternally yours,
> >>>>> Marion
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From:
> "Albert J Rizzi" <albert at myblindspot.org>
> >>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National
> Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> >>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009
> 12:58 PM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fake service dogs
> news story
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> To tell you the truth I see the
> tag "option" more as a tool to protect
> >>>>>> our
> >>>>>> rights rather then one to be
> considered a problem. The code was most
> >>>>>> probably created and enforced due
> to individuals trying to get over on
> >>>>>> society in order to bring their
> pets wherever they please. A service
> >>>>>> animal
> >>>>>> in and of itself and their
> abilities are evident when one sees a
> >>>>>> service
> >>>>>> animal in action. If however a tag
> helps protect us from charlatans
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>> does
> >>>>>> not complicate a true handlers
> life or access then what is the big
> >>>>>> deal?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
> >>>>>> CEO/Founder
> >>>>>> My Blind Spot, Inc.
> >>>>>> 90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
> >>>>>> New York, New York 10004
> >>>>>> www.myblindspot.org
> >>>>>> PH: 917-553-0347
> >>>>>> Fax: 212-858-5759
> >>>>>> "The person who says it cannot be
> done, shouldn't interrupt the one
> >>>>>> who
> >>>>>> is
> >>>>>> doing it."
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
> >>>>>> Behalf
> >>>>>> Of Linda Gwizdak
> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009
> 12:34 PM
> >>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the
> National Association of Guide Dog Users
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fake service
> dogs news story
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Ann,
> >>>>>> I was just as surprized to see in
> the story that the tags are
> >>>>>> mandatory -
> >>>>>> just like the law cited about
> busting people for fraudulent service
> >>>>>> animals.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The thing about the tags is NEVER
> enforced. I know many guide dog
> >>>>>> users
> >>>>>> who
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> never got around to getting the
> tags when they started issuing them
> >>>>>> several
> >>>>>> years ago. I got one so if by
> chance Landon got loose and was wearing
> >>>>>> only
> >>>>>> his collar, his finder would know
> right away that he was a service
> >>>>>> dog -
> >>>>>> that's the only reason I got it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> When I got the tag, the Animal
> Control folks NEVER said that these
> >>>>>> tags
> >>>>>> were
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> mandatory as the officer in the
> article said. I could very easily
> >>>>>> find
> >>>>>> out
> >>>>>> since I go to their campus to
> volunteer with the adjoining Humane
> >>>>>> Society
> >>>>>> twice a month!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I think the article was addressing
> that there is a definate problem
> >>>>>> with
> >>>>>> these "fake" service animals in
> the San Diego area - and I assume in
> >>>>>> other
> >>>>>> locales as well. When
> Channel 10 did the story, they NEVER approached
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> San Diego guide dog using
> residents. All they needed to do is call up
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> Blind Community Center or the San
> Diego Center for the Blind to find
> >>>>>> us.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So, yeah, the story was
> contradictory, I can try to contact the writer
> >>>>>> of
> >>>>>> the story and find out more.
> I've just been quite busy with other
> >>>>>> pressing
> >>>>>> things.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> As to rabbits, I have never
> encountered one as a service animal and I
> >>>>>> don't
> >>>>>> think it would be a problem to me
> as some of these untrained,
> >>>>>> unsocialized
> >>>>>> dogs people bring out and claim
> they are their service dogs.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What I think needs to be done is
> to bust the offenders who cause
> >>>>>> problems.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> have encountered some "emotional
> support" dogs on the bus who were
> >>>>>> very
> >>>>>> well
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> behaved and socialized. the
> dogs were suited for the work. I even had
> >>>>>> one
> >>>>>> that lay under the seat on the bus
> with Landon and it was Landon who
> >>>>>> tried
> >>>>>> to misbehave! (grin!) I told
> these people that I appreciated that
> >>>>>> they
> >>>>>> had
> >>>>>> nice dogs and I have no problem
> with these. It is unfortunate that
> >>>>>> some
> >>>>>> people spoil it all for the people
> who are responsible whether it is a
> >>>>>> pet
> >>>>>> or a service dog.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If people in this country trained
> their dogs and were responsible
> >>>>>> owners,
> >>>>>> I
> >>>>>> think the bans on dogs would go
> away. But, you know how it is -
> >>>>>> people
> >>>>>> lump
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> everyone into one group when it
> comes to dogs or other things. I wish
> >>>>>> that
> >>>>>> the OFFENDERS would be punished
> and leave the good folks alone.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Have a Happy Thanksgiving
> everyone!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Linda and Landon
> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From:
> "Ann Edie" <annedie at nycap.rr.com>
> >>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the
> National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> >>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009
> 12:16 AM
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fake service
> dogs news story
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi, Linda,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The logic behind news stories
> such as this one never ceases to amaze
> >>>>>>> me!
> >>>>>>> Can someone please explain to
> me how banning rabbits as service
> >>>>>>> animals
> >>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> going to have any effect on
> the number of pit bulls, Yorkies, and
> >>>>>>> Chihuahuas being fraudulently
> claimed as service animals?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> And, while you say that
> "service dog" tags are not required by
> >>>>>>> California
> >>>>>>> to gain public access with a
> service animal, the article clearly
> >>>>>>> tells
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> public--and managers of places
> of public accommodation--the exact
> >>>>>>> opposite, "Lt. Dan DeSousa of
> the San Diego County Animal Shelter
> >>>>>>> told
> >>>>>>> 10News that California
> requires all service dogs wear a special tag,
> >>>>>>> which
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> can be obtained at your local
> animal shelter by filling out a form."
> >>>>>>> Who
> >>>>>>> is John Q. Public going to
> believe, Linda G. who claims that she has
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> right under the ADA to take
> her "service dog" into any public place
> >>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>> just her say-so that the dog
> performs tasks to mitigate her
> >>>>>>> disability,
> >>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Lt. Dan DeSousa, (who sounds
> like an *official* law enforcement
> >>>>>>> officer
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> me), and who clearly states
> that California requires that a dog be
> >>>>>>> wearing
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "service dog" tags which can
> be obtained at your local animal shelter
> >>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>> order for the person to be
> granted public access?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> What good does it do to state
> on an e-mail list populated by guide
> >>>>>>> dog
> >>>>>>> users who already presumably
> know their rights under the ADA, that
> >>>>>>> "Service dog" tags are not
> required for public access, while Lt. Dan
> >>>>>>> DeSousa is quoted in the
> public media stating the exact opposite?
> >>>>>>> Perhaps
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> you should try to interest the
> TV news organization in airing a
> >>>>>>> debate
> >>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>> the subject of public access
> by persons with disabilities accompanied
> >>>>>>> by
> >>>>>>> service animals between Lt.
> Dan DeSousa and yourself or some other
> >>>>>>> representative of the
> disability community. And perhaps they should
> >>>>>>> also
> >>>>>>> include a user of a service
> rabbit and a non-disabled person who has
> >>>>>>> fraudulently obtained a
> "service dog" tag for his/her pet pit bull in
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> debate as well.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It is truly an Alice Through
> the Looking Glass World we live in!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>>> Ann
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Linda Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
> >>>>>>> To: "NFBnet NAGDU Mailing
> List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> >>>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 23,
> 2009 10:23 PM
> >>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Fake service
> dogs news story
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi All,
> >>>>>>>> Here below is an article
> from a newsstory aired last night on San
> >>>>>>>> Diego's
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> KGTV Channel 10. It
> was a good piece and I wanted to share it with
> >>>>>>>> you.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The service animal tags
> issued by SD Animal Control is NOT required
> >>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>> have our guide dogs
> admitted into public places. Some of us have
> >>>>>>>> them
> >>>>>>>> and some don't. Under ADA
> these tags can't be the determining factor
> >>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>> order to admit a service
> dog - it just lets the public know that the
> >>>>>>>> dog
> >>>>>>>> has been registered with
> the County of San Diego as a service dog.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> We experience the problem
> of these dogs mentioned in the story all
> >>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> time. One of my friends
> was getting off the bus when a "service dog"
> >>>>>>>> lunged and growled not
> only at her guide dog, but at several
> >>>>>>>> passengers!
> >>>>>>>> The bus driver did nothing
> about this. He was probably afraid of
> >>>>>>>> being
> >>>>>>>> sued under ADA.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I personally have
> encountered these nasty dogs on the bus and in
> >>>>>>>> public
> >>>>>>>> buildings. It sure
> is scary when all of a sudden you hear this
> >>>>>>>> menacing
> >>>>>>>> dog near you!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I hope the new ADA regs
> will help get rid of this problem.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Linda and Landon
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Loopholes Allow Pets to Be
> Taken Anywhere
> >>>>>>>> SAN DIEGO -- We all love
> our pets but some people are willing to
> >>>>>>>> break
> >>>>>>>> the law so they can take
> their dogs with them everywhere they go.
> >>>>>>>> 10News
> >>>>>>>> reporter Rachel Bianco
> investigated San Diego's canine companion
> >>>>>>>> controversy and how it
> threatens the rights of people who are truly
> >>>>>>>> disabled.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Sady the miniature
> daschund doesn't look like your typical service
> >>>>>>>> dog
> >>>>>>>> nor -- with her jumping
> and barking -- does she act like one, but
> >>>>>>>> when
> >>>>>>>> she wore a service dog
> vest and badge she had no trouble getting
> >>>>>>>> into
> >>>>>>>> North County restaurants.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Tami Michaels has a
> legitimate disability and a legitimate service
> >>>>>>>> dog.
> >>>>>>>> She said that when Fido is
> a fake it poses a real problem.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> "A lot of them don't have
> the right temperament to be out in
> >>>>>>>> public,"
> >>>>>>>> Michaels said. "So, when I
> go in with my dog to a grocery store or a
> >>>>>>>> restaurant, often times
> these kinds of dogs will lunge and growl and
> >>>>>>>> snap
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> at my dog."
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> But snapping dogs aren't
> the only problem. "I've seen a lot more
> >>>>>>>> suspicion from people
> where they automatically assume you are trying
> >>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>> pull something over on
> them," Michaels added.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Lt. Dan DeSousa of the San
> Diego County Animal Shelter told 10News
> >>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>> California requires all
> service dogs wear a special tag, which can
> >>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>> obtained at your local
> animal shelter by filling out a form. The
> >>>>>>>> only
> >>>>>>>> problem, DeSousa said, is
> that there is no way to follow up on the
> >>>>>>>> answers.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> DeSousa said that when
> someone applies for a service dog tag the
> >>>>>>>> only
> >>>>>>>> question they have to
> answer is if the animal is trained to perform
> >>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>> task for the person. There
> is no way to verify that what they're
> >>>>>>>> saying
> >>>>>>>> is true.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> "Doctors notes and
> disablities, that's off limits to us," DeSousa
> >>>>>>>> said,
> >>>>>>>> "we can't ask about that,
> so we have to take people at their word."
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> So far this year, the
> county has issued the most service dog tags --
> >>>>>>>> 43 -- to labradors.
> Chihuahuas came in second with 37 tags, beating
> >>>>>>>> golden retrievers which
> had 25.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Also curiously high on the
> list: yorkshire terriers, pit bulls, and
> >>>>>>>> pugs.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> "There are people who want
> this tag just so they can take their dog
> >>>>>>>> wherever they want to, so
> they can take it into the stores,
> >>>>>>>> restaurants
> >>>>>>>> and things like that,"
> said DeSousa.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> "A lot of people really
> just don't see anyting wrong with it I
> >>>>>>>> guess,"
> >>>>>>>> Michaels said. "They just
> really don't understand how much it hurts
> >>>>>>>> legitimate service dog
> teams."
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Having a fake service
> animal is a misdemeanor fraud punishable by
> >>>>>>>> six
> >>>>>>>> months in jail or a $1,000
> fine but the San Diego Sheriff's
> >>>>>>>> Department
> >>>>>>>> told 10News that it has
> never been enforced.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Right now it is simply too
> hard to tell whether the canine is a con.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The U.S. Justice
> Department is currently looking to tighten the
> >>>>>>>> rules
> >>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> service animals. The new
> guidelines under review would exclude
> >>>>>>>> reptiles,
> >>>>>>>> amphibians, rodents, farm
> animals, ferrets and rabbits. A final
> >>>>>>>> decision
> >>>>>>>> is expected by the end of
> the year.
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> >>>>>>>> not
> >>>>>>>> be published, broadcast,
> rewritten or redistributed
> >>>>>>>>
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