[nagdu] TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison

Sun May 17 09:39:38 UTC 2009

Julie,
    Thanks for the information. I have requested the information directly 
GEB and will post it to the list when it is received.

Fraternally,
marion


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From: "JULIE PHILLIPSON" <jbrew48 at verizon.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison


> hello Marion and all.  I have had 3 dogs from GEB.  I have never  been 
> afraid of them taking my dog.  I know most of the training staff there and 
> I don't believe any of them would take a dog without it being a mutual 
> decision.  GEB's policy is  that after 2 years you can apply for ownership 
> if you want to.  We are asked to fill out a health and work report but it 
> is not mandatory.  If you fill one out you get help with vet expenses of 
> $300 if you do not you get help of $250 per year again, if you want to 
> take advantage of it No one forces you to use that money and I guess there 
> are a lot of folks that do not.  .  There are many different training 
> opportunities.  There are 2 instructors to 6 students accept for the NYC 
> trip which is one on one.  There is 1. home training, 2. half at school 
> and half at home training, and the whole course of 19 for retrains or 26 
> days at the training center in Yorktown Heights for new students.  About 
> the dog that is under two years old I believe it is taken back to school 
> and retrained if possible and given to someone else and if it must be re 
> leased it is treated like a release dog from the program that is, release 
> dogs are first offered to the puppy raiser before being on the adoption 
> list which is a mile long.  By the way I have had 2 dogs that I have kept 
> with me until it was time for them to go  and I intend to do that with 
> Brewster unless something should happen before that that makes it 
> impossible for him to stay with me.  .  I have never been pressured to 
> retire my dog at a certain time although they do suggest by the age of 10 
> to start thinking about it.  When they turn 10 and every birthday after 
> that Brewster gets a birthday card and a present from GEB not that he 
> needs any more toys!  If someone decids to retire their dog and are not 
> able to find a good home GEB will help to find a home for the dog  again 
> only if you want them too.  Hope this helps to make it more clear.  I hope 
> Marion that you would consider dropping this issue and stop pounding fear 
> into perspective guide dog users minds.
> Julie Phillipson
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Marion & Martin" <swampfox1833 at verizon.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 1:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison
>
>
>> Ann,
>>    This is not my understanding. I will need to look into this more
>> closely, as this was the last report on ownership I had from them.
>>
>> Fraternally,
>> Marion
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Angie Matney" <angie.matney at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 10:50 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison
>>
>>
>>> Hello Marion,
>>>
>>>
>>> Grads can receive ownership of their GEB dogs after two years. I don't
>>> know
>>> about any reports the school might ask the person to file after that.
>>>
>>> Angie
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Marion & Martin
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 7:47 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison
>>>
>>> Tami,
>>>    In addition to "urban training", please ask your friend to consider 
>>> the
>>> two schools' ownership policies. The Seeing Eye grants - and always has
>>> for
>>> the past eighty years - full ownership upon graduation. On the other 
>>> hand,
>>> Guiding Eyes for the blind does not grant ownership throughout the life 
>>> of
>>> the guide. In fact, even after retirement, students are required to 
>>> submit
>>> annual vetrinarian reports to the school. HTH!
>>>
>>> Marion
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Tamara Smith-Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 3:26 AM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hey, all.  A friend was asking me some questions about guide dog 
>>>> schools,
>>>> and I had no clue to the answers, so I thought I would ask.  She wanted
>>>> to
>>>> know how Guiding Eyes and TSE compare when it comes to urban training 
>>>> for
>>>> both dog and handler, since both are near NYC.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone been to both schools?  How would you compare the two?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tami Smith-Kinney
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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