[nagdu] a question stemming from a hot debate

Tue Sep 15 18:57:55 UTC 2009

Also, your girlfriend and close family/friends will be "trained" by the
time subsequent dogs come around. 

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From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of JULIE PHILLIPSON
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 2:12 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] a question stemming from a hot debate

Gary you will learn more once you get your dog, but generally it is a
good idea to maintain the routine that you will establish in training
for a while after going home with your dog.  Your dog will most likely
test you and depending on the dog it might be a lot or not so much, but
the main thing is to be consistent.  Probably for the first few weeks or
longer you should be the main care taker of your dog until you have a
good bond between you.  A lot depends on the dogs personality and
behavior.  I have had one very hard dog, my first. He was a challenge to
gain control over him and he tested me a lot to see what he could get
away with.  It really took months to form a mutual respect, but when it
happened it was like something just set the switch on!  Then I have had
two softer dogs that took less time for us to 
bond.    The dog I have now took just a few weeks, in fact it seemed
like it 
happened almost as soon as we got back home.  Your first dog is most
likely going to be the most difficult because you are learning
everything from scratch, where subsequent dogs you kind of have the
upper hand because you know more about what to expect and what you need
to do to gain the dogs respect.
Julie Phillipson
----- Original Message -----
From: "GARY STEEVES" <rainshadowmusic at shaw.ca>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] a question stemming from a hot debate

> Hello Everyone:
>
> This topic comes at a good time for me. I am applying for a guide dog 
> as we speak. My girlfriend has expressed concerns about how things 
> will work with the new guide dog. She is very much a dog person and 
> doesn't want to be left out of the loop when it comes to enjoying a
dog in the family.
>
> My understanding is that when the dog is not in harness it is a pet
dog. 
> As long as my girlfriend reinforces  what I am doing with regards to 
> commands and rules everything should be fine (taking into 
> consideration what people have said previously about the dogs 
> personality itself). Is this correct? I want us to be enjoy having a 
> dog in the family as much as I want me to benefit from it's special
skills.
>
> Thanks
> Gary
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tamara Smith-Kinney <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
> Date: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 8:57 am
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a question stemming from a hot debate
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
Users'" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>
>> Chastity,
>>
>> Oh, I totally agree with you.  I think it is much, much better for 
>> the dog to play and socialize in its off duty time.  And that a 
>> happier, more mentally healthy dog witll make a better guide.  I was 
>> pretty picky about how people played with Mitzi whenshe was young, 
>> and now I just expect general civility -- no teasing or undo rough 
>> housing.  But I'm always thrilled when she's playing with people.  I 
>> have yet to see that it affects her bond with me in the slightest.
>>
>> Tami Smith-Kinney
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Chasity Jackson
>> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 3:08 PM
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [nagdu] a question stemming from a hot debate
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> After having a discussion with a friend this afternoon, who is a 
>> first time guide dog owner, I wanted to ask this question, just for 
>> curiosity's sake.
>>
>> How many of you believe that if you let your dog bond with family and

>> friends, that means that you aren't a good guide dog user and owner? 
>> This person told me that he does not let his family interact with his

>> dog for more than a few seconds. Now I totally respect everyone's 
>> right to be different, and I respect his right to do that, but then 
>> he went so far as to say that I don't act like I know how to use a 
>> guide dog because I said that I see nothing wrong with family and 
>> friends playing with your dog when they're at your house. Now, I'm 
>> not talking about when the dog is in harness, or if you're out 
>> running errands, etc. Of course, I am a stickler for that, when your 
>> dog is working, he or she is working and should not be bothered. I am

>> talking about if your buddy comes over on Sunday afternoon to watch 
>> football, and wants to sit on the floor and bond with your dog, or 
>> maybe throw a ball, etc. I personally don't see anything wrong with 
>> that after the bonding stages are over, and as long as your dog isn't

>> a brand new dog that is still trying to bond with you. Not that 
>> anyone's responses will change my mind, but I was just curious to see

>> how many people agree with me and how many agree with him. Just a 
>> topic of discussion here on the list.
>>
>> Chasity
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