[nagdu] convention 2010 ???
Julie J
julielj at windstream.net
Tue Sep 22 22:33:57 UTC 2009
Sharonda,
Yes, exactly. And in the recent past the ACB and NFB have worked
cooperatively on at least one project that I can think of off the top of my
head, that being access to electronic text that is already available
commercially.
Putting down the ACB is only going to serve to push us further apart. I
like the approach of starting with the things we have in common. I know
there are lots of things we do agree on. Why can't we work together on
those projects? Perhaps as some of the animosity heals we will be able to
work on more and more projects together.
We talk about the power of collective action, but it seems to me that we are
deliberately and willfully cutting out a lot of folks who could lend a lot
of power to that collective. I understand that perhaps they don't have the
same understanding about blindness that the NFB does, but does anyone start
out with a complete understanding of what blindness means. Hasn't the NFB's
stance on things changed over the years? Hasn't each and every person
within the NFB grown and changed because of the experience? Does everyone
within the NFB agree on anything?
I don't see attending an ACB convention as a waste of money. I see it as an
opportunity to learn. It will challenge me to think in new ways about
things I may not have considered before. I feel that I'm strongly rooted in
the core beliefs of the NFB. At this time, I have no desire to join the
ACB. But how can I really truly know if I don't have any first hand
experience to draw from?
JMHO
Julie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sharonda Greenlaw" <sbgreenlaw at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] convention 2010 ???
> Marion,
> As I re-read my email, I never said that we are working on the same
> things.
> However, I did say that we should work together. Do we right now? No. But
> the less devisiveness there is, we can get more accomplished.
>
> I'm not here to argue with you, so I'm done with this conversation. And
> no,
> I am not aspiring to be an ACB-er. But unity helps more things get done. I
> submit this respectfully to you and all who read.
>
>
>
> On 9/22/09, Marion & Martin <swampfox1833 at verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> Sharonda,
>> It always sounds good when people say "we ought to work together" or
>> "We
>> are all working for the same thing!" The truth of the matter is that the
>> NFB
>> and the ACB are not working for the same thing, as evidenced by the
>> article
>> I sent written by the former ACB President. Sure, it would be nice if we
>> would all work together, but the truth is that we are not all working for
>> the same thing. If we were, there wouldn't be an ACB!
>> The Council was formed by the American Foundation for the Blind and
>> other
>> affiliated agencies to give credence to the agency philosophy of
>> dependency
>> and to give their blind Uncle Toms a mouthpiece. The ACB still sides with
>> the agencies, is supportive of NAC, and works diligently to contradict
>> anything the NFB does. They tried to nix the Louis Braille Commemorative
>> Coin, they fought against funding for Newsline, and they say the NFB is
>> anti
>> guide dog, to name a few. If we are all working for the same thing, why
>> did
>> they choose to do these things? I, for one, will not compromise my
>> integrity
>> in order to work with someone or some group that contradicts my basic
>> philosophy. I am of the opinion that, if the ACB wants to work with the
>> NFB,
>> come join us! Otherwise, get out of the way!
>>
>> Fraternally yours,
>> Marion Gwizdala
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharonda Greenlaw" <
>> sbgreenlaw at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <
>> nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:14 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] convention 2010 ???
>>
>>
>> Julie,
>>> The ACB convention is definitely here in Phoenix. And for that reason
>>> and
>>> those that you have so aptly cited, I will also be attending this
>>> convention. Plus, it's right here in my state.
>>>
>>>
>>> I think us working together is where we definitely need to go. We must
>>> stop
>>> being a divisive people and learn how to come together. No, we don't
>>> agree
>>> on many things or ways of accomplishing things. But the more we can work
>>> together on, much more will be accomplished.
>>>
>>> I don't know if the site that was asked for was given.
>>> ACB's website is
>>> www.acb.org
>>> And our site is:
>>> www.nfb.org
>>> Have an awesome day--that's up to you!
>>>
>>> Sharonda
>>>
>>> On 9/22/09, Julie J <julielj at windstream.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Marion,
>>>>
>>>> Have you been to an ACB convention? Next year's is in Phoenix if I'm
>>>> not
>>>> mistaken. I'm seriously thinking of going. I'm very curious to see
>>>> the
>>>> differences between ACB and NFB, the organizations themselves as well
>>>> as
>>>> the
>>>> convention experience. I've been to a state ACB convention. There
>>>> were
>>>> differences, of course, but I think going to a national convention
>>>> would
>>>> be
>>>> a more valuable experience to better understand ACB.
>>>>
>>>> There are so many social, legal and physical barriers to overcome, I'd
>>>> so
>>>> much like to see the two organizations work together. I'll do what I
>>>> can
>>>> and for me I think the first step is attending an ACB national
>>>> convention
>>>> if
>>>> I can to understand what they think and why.
>>>>
>>>> Julie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marion & Martin" <
>>>> swampfox1833 at verizon.net>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <
>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 6:44 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] convention 2010 ???
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Convention of the National Federation of the Blind will be held
>>>>
>>>>> from July 3 - 8 at the Hilton anatole Hotel in Dallas Texas. The NAGDU
>>>>> meetings will be held on Saturday, July 3 and Monday July 5.
>>>>> I'm not sure why you would even want to attend an ACB Convention?
>>>>> They
>>>>> are half the size of an NFB convention and are much more expensive to
>>>>> attend, although they seem to offer more social functions, like tours,
>>>>> and
>>>>> uninspiring, boring sessions. If you are going to spend the money to
>>>>> go
>>>>> to a
>>>>> convention, you may as well attend the one that is biggest, best, and
>>>>> most
>>>>> dynamic? Attending an ACB Convention over an NFB Convention is like
>>>>> going to
>>>>> a corner church carnival when you could have gone to Disney World for
>>>>> less
>>>>> money!
>>>>>
>>>>> Fraternally yours,
>>>>> Marion
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Marion
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <countrygrl290 at aol.com>
>>>>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 9:15 PM
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] convention 2010 ???
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> does anyone know when the ACB convention will be for 2010 and where ?
>>>>> and
>>>>>
>>>>>> isnt it held in conjunction with the NAGDU or GDUI? convention? sorry
>>>>>> if i
>>>>>> posted in the wrong place??? this is the only spot i know to post as
>>>>>> i
>>>>>> dont
>>>>>> know if ACB? has a website
>>>>>> thanks
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>>> National Federation of the Blind
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> National Federation of the Blind
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