[nagdu] street crossings

[Julie J]

Nicole,

Thanks!  I guess here all the curb cuts correspond with the regular 
pedestrian path.  We don't have any of the kind of curb cuts that point you 
out into the middle of the intersection to do a diagonal crossing.

But for example downtown there is parking all around the block the 
courthouse is on.  If I crossed straight I'd end up in that parking area. 
So Monty will veer to stay in the crosswalk and end up in the correct place. 
Reversing that if we crossed straight we'd end up 20 feet from the actual 
corner and we'd have to walk through the stopped traffic.  I can't imagine 
how that'd be good. *smile*

I've only very recently started teaching the straight command because of T 
intersections.  I found that if we crossed from a regular corner to a no 
corner place, Monty was confused and veering crazy to find something that he 
thought was the right place to continue walking.  I can see how that would 
be confusing.

It sounds like what I'm doing is very similar to how others work various 
street crossings.

Thanks!
Julie


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nicole B. Torcolini" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] street crossings


> For me and my Lexia, it depends.  If I don't care if I land at the up ramp 
> and straight is the most important thing to me or if the up ramp is 
> straight, then it is straight.  There are a few places where I know that 
> the ramp is in a safe place and I will let and even encourage Lexia to 
> take me to the ramp.  This is not confusing to her as she seems to have a 
> very good grasp on the idea that different situations require different 
> actions.  For example, she understands that going up a regular staircase 
> means just going without stopping.  However, if it is one of those 
> staircases in a movie theater or auditorium that has the steps that are 
> about two strides in length, she understands that I want her to stop for 
> each one.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Susan Jones" <sblanjones11 at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 6:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] street crossings
>
>
>> My Rhoda does that in a couple of instances, where the ramp is on the 
>> side,
>> and not on the edge that faces me.
>> However, usually, she takes me to the place where the sidewalk continues,
>> regardless where that is, not necessarily straight across.
>> Some corners are just a little offset, but she handles those just as a
>> normal pedestrian would.
>>
>> HTH.
>> Susan & Rhoda
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Julie J
>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:01 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: [nagdu] street crossings
>>
>> When you cross a street with your guide dog, do you cross straight across 
>> no
>> matter where that lands you on the far curb or does your dog target the
>> pedestrian pathway?  What happens if you aren't lined up absolutely
>> perfectly, does the dog automatically correct the error or do you end up 
>> in
>> a straight line from where you were aimed?  I'm meaning a small bit of
>> misalignment, not 45 degrees off.
>>
>> I'm asking because I've trained my guides to target the up
>> curb/sidewalk/path regardless of where it is.  Then I was reading 
>> something
>> or another on the internet where some guide dogs are apparently taught to 
>> go
>> straight across and then make a 90 degree turn to get to the sidewalk. 
>> That
>> seems way weird to me.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>> Julie
>>
>>
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