[nagdu] EXTERNAL:Re: Hawaii

Thu Dec 9 20:55:43 UTC 2010

and blind people are just as capable of aquiring official looking
credientials for themselves or their dogs as a sighted person. 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Julie J
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 9:06 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: EXTERNAL:Re: [nagdu] Hawaii

Albert,

I think this is the text that sparked the discussion of cards that prove

blindness.
*I've changed from what I was thinking origionally.  The thing that
could
work, since those of us who either don't want to or don't have time to
train
our own dog, go to a school and have to present proof of disability,
well,
if those who owner train had to present proof of disability and get a
harness made that indicates that the animal is a service animal along
with
getting an I.D. card with proof of disability, that may work.  Then it
would
be quite a bit harder for someone to take a pet into a business
especially
if the law was changed to reflect the above.  Basically, it would
require
that somewhere on the harness it indicated clearly that the dog is a
service
dog and not a pet.
Jordan*

Certification of the dog was being discussed...somewhere...on another 
thread.   This discussion, at least my interpretation, is certification
of 
the handler's disability.  I stated a few messages back that this
approach 
would not help because blind people are just as capable as anyone else
of 
taking their pet into public.  It is the training of the dog specific to
the 
handlers disability that makes it a service dog.

Julie

ves we are blind and for
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Albert J Rizzi" <albert at myblindspot.org>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
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Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 8:00 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hawaii

>i agree with you totally on not wanting to nor feeling any government
has
> the right to make me carry a card to prove my disability. But perhaps
I
> missed one of the threads as I am deleting more then i am reading
these
> days, but I thought we were talking about certification for a trained
> service dog, how did we move to certifying  our disability. Which, I
might
> add I must certify and re certify with the commission for the blind,
para
> transit, insurances and parking permits. What the hell does the word
> permanent mean to these entities anyway?
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf
> Of Julie J
> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 8:44 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hawaii
>
> I am losing patience.
>
> I never said that the stars the Jewish people wore are the same thing.

> What
>
> I said is that it reminds me of it.
>
> Drivers licenses are different.  Driving is a privilege, not a right.
I
> don't need a license to walk down the street.
>
> If I go to a different country, then I agree to abide by their laws.
I'm 
> a
> guest there.  If they want paperwork then by choosing to go there I
agree 
> to
>
> those terms.  If they require that I wear orange on Tuesdays then I
agree 
> to
>
> do that if I choose to travel there.
>
> I am a citizen of the United States I demand to be treated the same as

> every
>
> other citizen.  When everyone has to carry a card stating their
medical
> history, I'll consider moving to another country.
>
> Julie
>
>
>
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