[nagdu] seeing eye

Jennifer L Finley jenniferfinley at embarqmail.com
Mon Feb 22 04:55:17 UTC 2010 

Thanks so much.  I guess that I sometimes think that you all are getting 
tired of my questions.  It's nice to hear about all of your experiences even 
if they are not from the seeing eye.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marion & Martin" <swampfox1833 at verizon.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] seeing eye


> Jennifer,
>    As a former teacher and now public speaker and presenter, I will say to 
> you what I say whenever I make a presentation in which I invite the 
> audience to ask questions: The only stupid question is the one that wasn't 
> asked! Part of the purpose of this list is to share information with other 
> guide dog users and those interested in guide dog related issues. Another 
> important element of this list is to mentor those interested in getting a 
> guide dog, especially young people. When I am older and grayer (grin) I 
> know that there will be someone we have mentored to take up the office and 
> the banner of the division. Perhaps this person will be you; maybe it will 
> be Mark. Whoever it will be, I hope we mentor a strong and dedicated 
> Federationist that will nurture this Movement and lead it on into the 
> future!
>    Keep asking questions! In fact, never stop asking questions! this is 
> how we learn and expand our consciousness!
>
> fraternally yours,
> Marion Gwizdala
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jennifer L Finley" <jenniferfinley at embarqmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 7:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] seeing eye
>
>
>> Is it bad that I am asking all of these questions?  I just feal like I am 
>> bugging you all with my questions.  If not, I will keep asking.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Wayne Merritt" <wcmerritt at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:35 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] seeing eye
>>
>>
>>> When I was at Seeign Eye in the fall of 2008, they gave each one of us
>>> the smaller bells that can clip onto the dog's collar. I was able to
>>> request a few more due to a slight hearing loss I have. They also
>>> provide the next 6 months of heart and flea meds I believe, along with
>>> a few days supply of food and dog treats. AS if all that weren't
>>> enough, you can buy things from their catelog of dog related material,
>>> some which you might want, such as extra bowls, leashes, bed/night
>>> chains, and other items. You can always call them to order any of
>>> these after you leave class, but it's handy to have a choice of them
>>> while in training as well. They also have some clothing in their
>>> variety of things, such as shirts and fleece jackets. One of my
>>> coworkers actually mistakened my fleece jacket I wore to work recently
>>> for the same type of jacket that her school sells. Then of course we
>>> got into a short debate of which school thought of it first, grin.
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>>
>>> On 2/21/10, Linda Gwizdak <linda.gwizdak at cox.net> wrote:
>>>> Ginger,
>>>> Will you please tell Julie where Seeing Eye gets those soft crates we 
>>>> had at
>>>> school and they ordered one for me to buy?  thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Lyn and Landon
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Julie J" <julielj at windstream.net>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 5:02 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] seeing eye
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Wayne!
>>>>>
>>>>> The Vari-Kennel I have is the plastic sort with metal door and 
>>>>> windows.
>>>>> It's super huge.  Fortunately my husband doesn't mind using it as his
>>>>> night stand! LOL
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd love to find a portable crate that would fold up reasonably small, 
>>>>> be
>>>>> light enough for me to easily carry and is big enough for my pony of a 
>>>>> dog
>>>>>
>>>>> to fit into.  I have scoured the internet and found nothing.  I'm 
>>>>> snowed
>>>>> in again today, so maybe I'll give it another go today.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> Julie
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Wayne Merritt" <wcmerritt at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 10:50 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] seeing eye
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> >From what i remember, the school's crates were heavy duty plastic 
>>>>>> >with
>>>>>> metal doors that could be swung open or shut, and had latches you
>>>>>> could use to lock the door shut. It looked more stationary than the
>>>>>> travel crates others have described. I'm sure that if I needed one,
>>>>>> then they would have provided me with one. I saw another student's
>>>>>> crate for their dog and it was the travel kind previously described,
>>>>>> with the zippers and it looked like it could be folded down pretty
>>>>>> tight for easy carrying.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wayne
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/21/10, Jennifer L Finley <jenniferfinley at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Julie, what kind of crate did wain use?
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Julie J" <julielj at windstream.net>
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 5:27 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] seeing eye
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wayne,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Holy cow! That must be a seriously nice crate.  Do you happen to 
>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> brand or what features it has?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I bought a super huge Vari-Kennel for Monty.  I think it's the 
>>>>>>>> biggest
>>>>>>>> size available.  My husband calls it "the dog barn".  ROFLOL  It 
>>>>>>>> cost
>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> over $100  or so including the shipping.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't use tie down at all.  Monty loves his crate.  He will go in
>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>> sometimes in the afternoon just to hang out or take a nap.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now that he's grown out of his puppy craziness and is reliable in 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> house, I don't use the crate as much as I used to.  Again, it's 
>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>> of the many things that you have to figure out what works in your
>>>>>>>> current
>>>>>>>> situation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Julie
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Wayne Merritt" <wcmerritt at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog 
>>>>>>>> Users"
>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 3:48 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] seeing eye
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You will be given a small mat for the dog to sleep on during one 
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> the first regular nightly lectures when you're at the school. This
>>>>>>>>> will probably be the first night you're there, where they go over
>>>>>>>>> basic stuff, everyone introduces themselves, and they hand out a 
>>>>>>>>> few
>>>>>>>>> things like the mats. Some dogs are crated at the Seeing Eye, but 
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> think that this depends on the dog. Many of my classmates had 
>>>>>>>>> crates
>>>>>>>>> for their dogs and some didn't. I didn't use a crate my first half 
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> training, but asked for one during the second half. My dog seemed 
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> do fine with or without one. I looked into crates when I returned
>>>>>>>>> home, but quickly discovered that the ones that the school was 
>>>>>>>>> using,
>>>>>>>>> were usually around $300 or more. I didn't much like the cheaper 
>>>>>>>>> ones,
>>>>>>>>> or couldn't find any that suited me, so I've just done without and 
>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>> dog hasn't been worse for wear. I tried leaving the mat out, but 
>>>>>>>>> she
>>>>>>>>> eventually pushed it aside and now just sleeps on bare carpet and 
>>>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>>> fine. If my apartment had floors then things might be different, 
>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>> then again who knows. I'm sure that she wouldn't be opposed to 
>>>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>>>> a nicer mat or doggie bed, but since she's done fine without one, 
>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>> I really haven't seen the need. My trainer at the school pretty 
>>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>> said as much when I brought up the topic of crates with him.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wayne
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2/20/10, Jennifer L Finley <jenniferfinley at embarqmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> thanks Joy I just was not sure about that.
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Joy Relton" <jrelton at verizon.net>
>>>>>>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>>> Users'"
>>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 6:47 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] seeing eye
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jennifer,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, you do use your cane up until the time that you begin to 
>>>>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>> dog.
>>>>>>>>>>> I would recommend bringing a folding cane so that you can pack 
>>>>>>>>>>> it in
>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>> suit case when you go home.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>>>>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>>>>>> Of Jennifer L Finley
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 7:09 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] seeing eye
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello this is Jennifer, I was wondering, when you first get to 
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> seeing
>>>>>>>>>>> eye, do you ever use your cane?  I know at some schools you go
>>>>>>>>>>> sighted
>>>>>>>>>>> guide.  Thanks let me know
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