[nagdu] Washington - Guide dog killed crossing Kennewick street

Tue Mar 23 19:57:45 UTC 2010

That I can agree with. Life is a crap shoot that way. we take our lives into
our hands everyday we step out of the house. 

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From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of David Baker
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 3:43 PM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Washington - Guide dog killed crossing Kennewick street

I think you are trying to apply hard and set rules (which are by their
nature
not hard and set)  from one set of circumstances to another, completely
different set of circumstances.

My only point here is that there is no free pass that says if you have a
white
cane or a guide dog then you are safe and drivers are absolutely responsible
for
your safety..

David

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cheryl echevarria
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 3:21 PM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] Washington - Guide dog killed crossing Kennewick street

okay from what I remember studying for my lerner's permit and helping my
daughter's with hers, it seems to me that the person behind the wheel is
responsible for hitting a pedestrian whether by accident or god forbid on
purpose.  A driver can be sued in civil court for damages.

Now, I remember driving and you have to keep your eyes on the road as well
as
what is around you at all times, to be a safe driver.  Now, we are saying
now is
if someone walk out in the middle of the street whether it is at a cross
walk or
not, because there is not always going to be a cross walk around and we have
to
have to know our surroundings as well, listening for cars, etc when crossing
the
street, and if someone steps out and walks let's say one of our member up in
albany and this is an actual case here in NY, A business owner vender in one
of
our state office buildings was crossing the street at a cross walk with the
proper street crossing lights that have tweeting street signs to help them
cross
and still he stepped off the curb with his can, and mind you it is one of
those
famous quiet cars we are trying to change in congress that person who is
crossing the street is partly responsible.  Mind you he is okay, and only
his
can suffered the damages, in fact when we go to Albany every year he brings
the
damages cane with him to show all the senators and assembly people there.
That
makes him partially responsible.  I don't think so.

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  From: Dan Weiner<mailto:dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net>
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  Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 3:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [nagdu] Washington - Guide dog killed crossing Kennewick
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  , a hypothetical question, guys.
  Now, whether we like to admit it or now, all of us have crossed against
the
  light at least once.
  There's no moving traffic, or the cars turn in strange ways or something.
  So, if we cross against the light, but not deliberately in to traffic,
what
  would be the implications of that?
  Would you then say that we have partial responsibility?

  Dan W. and the big boy, Carter  

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