[nagdu] Audible Traffic Signals

[Julie J]

Thanks!  I'll check that site out.
It doesn't sound like this intersection would really benefit from APS.  The 
thing I don't get is that all the intersections downtown are about the same, 
not very busy two way streets that intersect moderately busy one ways.  It 
just so happens that I cross this one particular street to get to work and 
suddenly that intersection is getting all this attention.

Honestly if they want to spend a load of money I could think of a dozen 
things that would be way more helpful.

Thanks!
Julie


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Audible Traffic Signals


>I had a website address with all this stuff on it, but  I can't find it! I
> believe it was set up by the AER O&M crew.  I know Lucas Franck from TSE
> had a hand in it, because he told me about it.  I hate when I can't find
> stuff!
> I did find a website, apsguide.org, that has a lot of stuff about APS's,
> though.
> As I recall, an audible signal should be installed when it is difficult
> for a blind person to evaluate the intersection auditorily.  (Don't that
> sound official!)  Examples:  a T intersection where there is no
> through-traffic to indicate when the light has changed; intersections with
> turning lanes, where there's a turn cycle and a walk cycle; and
> intersections where the amount of traffic controls the signal, i.e., the
> signal changes when there's enough cars waiting for it to change.
>
> I used to feel funny, asking for a special signal just for me, but not
> now.  Sighted people don't feel funny demanding a walk signal when they
> need one, so why should I?  I have the same right to access safety
> information as everyone else.
> And it turns out "my" signal is helpful to other people too, giving them
> an additional cue as to when to walk.
> Tracy
>
>
>> I was asked questions last night about audible pedestrian signals during
>> my
>> presentation.  I of course know what they are and generally how they 
>> work.
>> However I have never actually had the experience of crossing a street 
>> that
>> has them.  I'm not convinced that we really need them here where I live,
>> but
>> I'd like to have some facts about APS.  Is there some authoritative 
>> source
>> that outlines when they are necessary?
>>
>> The particular intersection that everyone but me is concerned about is a
>> not
>> extremely busy two way street  that intersects a moderately busy one way.
>> I cross it twice a day, to work and back.  Sometimes I wait a couple of
>> cycles to get it figured out, but generally I cross at my first
>> opportunity.
>> It's not a particularly easy intersection, but I don't feel unsafe 
>> either.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>> Julie
>>
>>
>>
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