[nagdu] Shepherds at GDB Re: dog drop-out rate

Tracy Carcione carcione at access.net
Tue May 18 12:24:09 UTC 2010


Oh yes Meghan, that makes a lot of sense.  Thanks for clearing that up.
Tracy


> I think when they made that announcement a couple years back, they had
> just
> bred their last litter of shepherds, so those dogs would have still been
> being raised about a year ago and should have been issued/career changed
> by
> now, I think.  Does that make sense?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Shepherds at GDB Re: dog drop-out rate
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>> GDB made a big announcement a couple years ago that they were not
>> putting
>> out any more shepherds, and I think I remember them saying it was
>> because
>> not enough of them were making it through to be guides.
>> But then last year I read there was a shepherd puppy being raised, so
>> that
>> was a bit confusing.
>> Mixed information, yep!
>> Tracy
>>
>>
>>> What is actually going on with the shepherds at GDB?  I've heard mixed
>>> information.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Nicole
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 10:36 AM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] dog drop-out rate
>>>
>>>
>>>> When we were discussing owner-training and how hard it can be to find
>>>> a
>>>> suitable dog, I started wondering what the drop-out rate is at the
>>>> schools.  I had heard, way back 30 years ago at GDB, that it was 50
>>>> percent.  But I also think that part of the reason GDB dropped its
>>>> shepherd lines was that not enough dogs were making the cut.  The
>>>> investment was not paying off.  And I would think that, with
>>>> scientific
>>>> breeding that has gone on for several generations, plus considerable
>>>> experience in training dogs, that the drop-out rate would be, well, a
>>>> good
>>>> bit less than 50 percent.
>>>> But I just was looking at the GDB blog.  A couple years ago, they
>>>> chose
>>>> a
>>>> lab litter and followed it through to adulthood, and they just had a
>>>> wrap-up.  3 are guides; 2 are assistance dogs; and 2 are
>>>> "career-changed".
>>>> So, of 7 dogs, only 3 are guide dogs.  I was a bit surprised.
>>>> Has anyone heard any recent statistics about dog drop-out rates among
>>>> the
>>>> big schools?  I'm quite curious.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not picking on GDB or anything; it's just the one I've heard the
>>>> most
>>>> about.
>>>> Tracy
>>>>
>>>>
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