[nagdu] EXTERNAL:Re: harnesses

Fri Nov 12 13:42:50 UTC 2010

And I find it interesting that they were concerned about how you'd
manage a seizure if you were by yourself. We all are faced with things
we need to deal with. And, we do, having working eyeballs doesn't mean
that you will deal with a situation better then if you didn't I'd be
wanting to know the school's logic for this attitude.  I can understand
the school saying "We insist all our dogs be in perfect health, yours
isn't" but to doubt your abilities to handle a seizure all by yourself
just rubs me all kinds of wrong ways. 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Tamara Smith-Kinney
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 5:53 PM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Subject: EXTERNAL:Re: [nagdu] harnesses

Yeeks!  I'm glad it was only the one seizure and that you stuck to your
guns.  The sport harness is terrific for hiking!

So I find myself wondering at the reasons for your program's policy
about
harnesses...  Not that it matters to me, I just find it curious.

Tami Smith-Kinney

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf
Of GARY STEEVES
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 11:01 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] harnesses

Hello Everyone:

I'm going to ask a question which will undoubtably get some people's
response. :) I asked my school about using another harness since I am
thinking about using the paw power sports harness on Bogart when we do
some
summer hiking. After doing a hike with him this summer I think a lighter
harness designed for that type of action might work better. I asked my
school if  they had a policy about using other harnesses on Bogart and,
not
surprisingly to me, they do have a policy forbidding the use of other
harnesses on their graduates. They are also a school that maintains
ownership of the dog which is a bit annoying but I doubt, since I am a
pretty strong advocate for what I need, will be an issue. For example,
Bogart had some sort of ceizure only 2 weeks after we got home from
training. Luckily the trainer was with us on a visit so she witnessed
what
happend. If I had been an insecure person and didn't say that I want to
keep
bogart since who knows if this will happen again, they would have taken
him
back to the school with  them that day. I think this would have happened
with most schools since they were concerned what I would do if he had
another incident and I was by myself but I was able to assure them I
knew
how to handle the situation and always have a cane with me in case
something
was to happen to bogart anyways. They respect my abilities and that was
the
end of the conversation.

Oops, sort of side tracked. Does any other school have a similar harness
policy? Yeah, I know, what they don't know won't hurt them so I
certainly
won't hesitate from buying a sport harness if I think it is what is best
for
bogart and myself based on our activities.

Thanks
Gary

----- Original Message -----
From: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
Date: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 7:36 am
Subject: Re: [nagdu] harnesses
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>

> My brother has a GDB dog, and a detachable harness handle, and 
> it does not
> come flying off while he's working the dog.  Surely, if 
> that happened
> often, GDB would not issue them.
> I don't think GDB would sell a non-grad a harness.  It has 
> their name on
> it, after all.  Like asking Dodge to sell you their 
> trademark thingy to
> stick on your Chevy.
> 
> I haven't bought one, but I rather thought that the Pawpower harnesses
> would cost similar to what a school would charge a non-grad, if 
> you could
> get them to sell you one at all.
> Tracy
> 
> > Hi Listers,
> >
> >
> >
> > I know we have discussed this subject a lot on here, so 
> forgive me for
> > bringing it up again. So I called SE yesterday to see if they 
> would even
> > think of developing a harness for a grad, who needs a 
> removable handle.
> > And
> > they said they have tried, but can't make one that the handle 
> does not
> > deattach while working the dog. So here is my dilemma. With me 
> in cars,
> > and
> > on the go just much more in general. I am in desperate need of 
> a harness
> > that has a removable handle. I have seen the new GDB harness, 
> with the
> > quick
> > release handles. Does anyone have one? And have you noticed if 
> the handle
> > deattaches while working the dog? And is it possible for me, a 
> guide dog
> > user to get my hands on a GDB harness? My first pup was from 
> GDB, but when
> > I
> > retired her, they took back the harness. But that was not an 
> harness with
> > the quick release handle either. Didn't know if anyone else 
> has a dog from
> > one school, but uses a harness from a different school. Do the 
> schools> frown
> > upon this? Exchanging of harness and dogs? If this doesn't 
> work, I am
> > seriously thinking of purchasing a PawPowers harness.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for letting me ask questions,
> >
> > Marsha
> >
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