[nagdu] Full Body Scanning Machines

Thu Nov 18 15:10:12 UTC 2010

Good morning everyone,

    Like others on the list I employ many of the same techniques when going 
through airport security. Despite my best efforts we always end up getting 
patted down.San Antonio must be a high risk airport where terrorism is 
concerned. This always happens when we fly. This along with other issues 
have us exploring alternatives to commercial air travel. Ensuring the safety 
of professional recording equipment is one of these considerations. To be 
fare TSA folks have always handled it with care whenever I've taken it in 
the cabin. By the way Lynn Gwizdak and Mike Hingson are in the heart of Jet 
Suite country along with others on this list. Their primary service area is 
Arizona, California,Nevada, and Utah. They operate non-stop flights within 
thee four states and one-stop flights to many destinations west of the 
Mississippi.

Peter Donahue

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 7:07 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Full Body Scanning Machines

I use the same method as Mike.  Benny loves the pat-down.  He's apt to
hand out free kisses to the person doing the patting.

It's a considerable relief to me to know I won't get X-rayed every time I
go to the airport.
Tracy

> Everyone will proceed through security in their own way.  I, for example,
> get to the opening of the standard portal, drop the harness and tell
> Africa
> to sit and stay, drop the leash and then go through the detector.  Once on
> the other side I call her.
>
> The advantage of this approach is that I do not set off the detector and
> thus generally never face a more rigorous patdown or body scan.  Africa
> comes through the detector and always gets a full patdown which is never
> long enough for her taste.
>
> As someone else said on this list don't make the new proceedures more than
> what they are.  If you don't set off detectors you usually won't get
> searched anyway.  Act friendly, engage the TSA folks in a friendly way,
> and
> you won't have a problem.
>
> I have a goal every time I go to the airport of getting TSA people to
> laugh.
> It works and I don't have problems with them.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Marsha Drenth
> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 6:12 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Full Body Scanning Machines
>
> Don't know how this is supposed to work. Is it dangerous for the dogs to
> go
> into the scanner?
>
> Guess I will see how all this works. Joe and I are flying to Texas for
> thanksgiving. I am a bit anxious, but not much I can do about it.
> Yesterday,
> while on the way to school, there was a radio program with women who flew,
> and was having the "pat-down". But from her accounts the "pat-down" is
> more
> like being sexually assaulted. And I thought it was just her account of
> the
> events but, there were other women calling into the program, saying the
> same
> thing. That for women who are being patted-down, the people who touch your
> very private areas, and even under the breasts. I understand the need for
> security at the airport, But. But. But. This is in my opinion; you can
> take
> it or leave it, a clear violation of our privacy.
>
> And from what I heard and have read, is if someone sets off the metal
> detector, then you're "patted-down" or full body scanned. Now who of us
> with
> our dogs, is not going to set off the metal detectors. I usually go
> through
> the metal detector, without my dog. But because she sets it off, I get
> searched too, not just her. Doesn't make much sense to me.
>
> Like I said, just my two cents.
>
> Marsha
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Toni Whaley
> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 11:39 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: [nagdu] Full Body Scanning Machines
>
> Hello!
>
> Does anyone know what the rules are for blind people with canes or dogs
> now
> that the full body machine has been installed in most airports? What do we
> do with the dog while we're being scanned? or do we have to submit to the
> more intrusive patdown?
>
> Toni
>
>
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