[nagdu] Going to Jail

Sun Oct 17 00:13:59 UTC 2010

Jenine,
    thank you very much for this information. I would like to have something 
in writing to post on our website and for my edification!

Fraternally yours,
Marion


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jenine Stanley" <jeninems at wowway.com>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Going to Jail


> Marion,
>
> We recently had this question asked by a GDF grad who wished to visit a
> relative in prison and the prison officials were telling him that he could
> not bring his dog.
>
> I spoke with DOJ and they noted that unless it was a federal facility,
> prisons fell under Title II, state and local government, regulations. 
> Since
> these regulations use the same definitions for service animal and access
> with a service  animal, the facility must, if requested, make an effort to
> accommodate the person and his dog, unless the usual caveats apply that 
> you
> have already stated.
>
> I don't know how this case turned out as the person didn't let us know, 
> but
> the information was relayed to the prison officials.
>
> I have visited several prisons in the New York system when doing some
> writing about the Puppies Behind Bars program. My husband and I had our
> guide dogs in several areas of Fishkill Men's Correctional Facility and
> Bedford Hills Women's Correctional Facility with no problems. We were 
> always
> escorted by prison staff, PBB program volunteers or PBB program inmates 
> and
> at no time did I feel unsafe or as if my dog was causing any undo
> disruption.
>
> In fact, seeing the effect raising these puppies had on especially the 
> male
> inmates, was very profound for me. These people took their job of raising
> that well-socialized obedient and willing guide dog very seriously and
> really got more from the unconditional love the dogs gave them than they 
> put
> in.
>
> Jenine Stanley
> jeninems at wowway.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Marion Gwizdala
> Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 11:39 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Going to Jail
>
> dear All,
>    I know there are those who would rather not take their dog to a prison.
> Similarly, there are those who would rather not take their guide to a zoo.
> On the other hand, there are those of us who have visited and want to 
> visit
> zoos with our guide dogs. In this case, we are talking about a prison, not 
> a
>
> zoo. Under what premise would a prison be allowed to refuse you the right 
> to
>
> be accompanied by a service animal?
>    I'm going to do some research - unless someone else would like to do
> it - to see if the DOJ has rendered any decisions on this issue. I would
> also like to hear valid arguments about whether or not a visitor's service
> animal should be allowed in a prison or jail. What if the person with the
> service animal is the inmate? Do these civil rights extend to inmates? I'd
> like to see arguments supported by an authoritative resource.
>    BTW, which title of the ADA would apply to this circumstance? HINT: you
> can find the text of the ADA at
>
> HTTP://WWW.ADA.GOV
>
> Fraternally yours,
> Marion
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Buddy Brannan" <buddy at brannan.name>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 1:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Going to Jail
>
>
>>I dunno. Yes, there are puppy raisers in prisons, but they aren't maximum
>>security prisons.
>> --
>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 15, 2010, at 1:30 PM, Cindy Ray wrote:
>>
>>> Buddy, what could happen to your dog if you took him to a prison. Did 
>>> you
>
>>> all know that there are some prisons were puppy raising is happening?
>>>
>>> Cindy
>>>
>>>
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