[nagdu] Puppy raising Question

Fri Apr 8 00:55:50 UTC 2011

Yikes!  I let that one get out before I thought my way through it, didn't I?
/grin/

Well, I was thinking aloud to myself about what the employer's reasoning
might be in this specific case without evaluating whether it was valid or
not.

Now that you mention it, though, since he could not prevent a blind guide
dog user or other disabled service dog user because dander might get into
the air system, it's not as cut and dried as it might seem.

Hmm...  So I'm back to wondering about that one again.  Ah, wel, something
to do since there's nothing on TV right now.  /grin/

Tami Smith-Kinney

-----Original Message-----
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Of d m gina
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 2:55 PM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] Puppy raising Question

Hmmmmmmm
Tammy this would mean then no blind person would ever be hired from 
this company with what your thoughts are on the matter?
hmmmmmmm

Original message:
> Diana and Sarah,

> That is my understanding of the matter from a legal perspective, too.

> What I have heard is that many guide dog programs do a lot of outreach and
> make arrangements with businesses and agencies and transit companies and,
> well, just about everybody they can, to gain permission for their puppy
> raisers and trainers to bring the program's pups with them for the sake of
> socialization and exposure to the many environments in which the youngster
> will be doing their work in later life.  I know GDB has done a pretty good
> job of that around the Portland Metro area because of the Boring campus
> nearby.  Which is why I so often have to explain about why my dog isn't
> wearing a green vest when we go places we haven't been before.  /smile/
The
> GDB pups and GDITs wear green vests with the school name and logo so that
> they are easily identifiable.  I guess some clerks and business owners who
> don't see guide dogs all that often assume that it is the vest that makes
> the dog a guide and that there is some legal requirement for all guide
dogs
> to wear them.  I tried the short explanation at first -- that's for Guide
> Dogs with a Capital G and Capital D -- but this did not appear to be
> effective at all, since the person didn't grasp the distinction.  Oh,
well.
> So I had to come up with a more extended spiel and practice it for next
time
> it came up.  /lol/

> So, Diana, I would interested to know -- if your friend is okay with your
> sharing that information -- how the program she is raising the puppy for
> deals with the matter.  Do they get involved in something like this so
that
> she can continue to give her pups more exposure to the workplace
> environment?  Or is it up to her to handle those arrangements directly
with
> her employer.

> I can't think of many good reason why the employer in this case would
change
> things because of a new building, but I suspect it may have something to
do
> with the air ducts and environmental systems in the new building.  They
> might have some concern about dander and loose dog hair floating through
the
> air ducts into other parts of the building where there might be a problem
> for people with allergies, especially if the building is shared with other
> companies.

> Just a guess.  This is an interesting topic, though.

> Tami Smith-Kinney

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Sarah Clark
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 1:42 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Puppy raising Question

> Hi Diana,
> Unfortunately your puppy raiser friend does not have any rights when it
> comes to bringing her puppy to work.  The right of access goes with the
> handler, not the dog, and it is the blind handler who has the rights, and
> only when the dog has actually completed training as a guide.
> Many puppy raisers are able to bring their puppies in training to stores,
> work, etc, but that is only because the establishment has chosen to allow
> it.  If they don't grant access, the raiser has no legal standing, and
> should probably not push the issue.

> Sarah & Miguel

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Diana Dawne" <drdawne at samobile.net>
> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 12:44 PM
> Subject: [nagdu] Puppy raising Question

>> Hi all.  I have a friend who has encountered a problem She currently is
>> raising for one of the large schools on the east coast.  She has done
this

>> for many years and always takes her dogs to work with her which I think
is

>> what puppy raisers are supposed to do. Her dogs are always the model of
>> correct deportment so there has never ever been an issue over their
>> behavior.  However today her boss called her into his office to explain
>> they were changing offices and he would no longer allow her to bring the
>> dog to work with her.

>> It seems odd to me that if she has done this for many years and there
have

>> never been complaints this attitude is strange to say the least.  Does
she

>> have any legal rights whatever?

>> Bright Blessings,

>> Diana & that Very Magical and Enchanting Guide Dog Fuller Brush
>> email: drdawne at samobile.net
>> phone toll-free 8775232688

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