[nagdu] Service Animals and Ambulances,

Larry D. Keeler lkeeler at comcast.net
Thu Dec 22 21:17:28 UTC 2011


quite correct!  I've never been incapacitated enough to not have control of 
Holly and she isn't rattled by noises.  Hope I'll never have to find out!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Service Animals and Ambulances,


> Larry,
>    I suppose this could be a concern; however, the supposition is just 
> that; it is an assumption not founded in fact. Of course, we wouldn't want 
> to find out it was fact when it is too late. At the same time, I guess we 
> all know how our dogs would react to sirens from our naturalistic 
> experiences. The sirens we hear while out working are actually much louder 
> than they are inside the vehicle. So, if your dog doesn't react to the 
> sirens while on the street, the likelihood it would react to them inside 
> the ambulance shouldn't be a concern. JMHO!
>
> Fraternally yours,
> Marion
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 11:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Service Animals and Ambulances,
>
>
>> True!  The only thin I can figure is that the worry is that a dog could 
>> cause an accident especially when turning on the siren.  So far, I 
>> haven't been in that situation yet.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:00 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Service Animals and Ambulances,
>>
>>
>>> Larry,
>>>    This doesn't seem logical to me. If the dog is unpredictable and 
>>> could interfere with driving, how is it that it might not interfere with 
>>> the treatment of the person in the back?
>>>
>>> Fraternally yours,
>>> Marion Gwizdala
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 1:34 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Service Animals and Ambulances,
>>>
>>>
>>>> The only thing I have been told by our ambulance company is that dogs 
>>>> have to ride in back.  They claim that animals are unpredictable and 
>>>> might interfere with driving.  So, when I ride with my wife, Holly goes 
>>>> in back with her while I ride in front.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 11:44 AM
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Service Animals and Ambulances,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Though I agree that service animal users may have different ways of 
>>>>> handling this issue, how an individual chooses to do so and how the 
>>>>> ambulance company does are diffent issues. One may choose to tell an 
>>>>> ambulance provider - or any entity - about the presence of a service 
>>>>> dog, but the entity cannot require this be done. A handler may decide 
>>>>> to not transport the service dog with them, but the provider cannot 
>>>>> refuse to do so unless the animal poses a direct threat or is out of 
>>>>> control.
>>>>>    As for the specific issue in Baltimore, the City and County have 
>>>>> requested from NAGDU and have received model policies concerning 
>>>>> service animals in pre-hospitalization treatment and transportation. 
>>>>> Their legal counsel has confirmed with me that they are considering 
>>>>> the adoption of these policies.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fraternally yours,
>>>>> Marion Gwizdala
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Criminal Justice Major" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
>>>>> To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 10:48 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Blind man says paramedics prevented guide dog 
>>>>> fromtraveling with him
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, all,
>>>>>> I know some may agree or disagree with me on this, but that's fine by 
>>>>>> me.
>>>>>> Although all states do have laws that state that service dogs are to 
>>>>>> be transported with their handlers, it's also up to us in regards of 
>>>>>> using common sense when being transported via ambulance.
>>>>>> During the time I had to call an ambulance on myself February 23, 
>>>>>> 2007, I immediately notified that paramedic dispatcher that I had a 
>>>>>> guide dog on scene.
>>>>>> That made the situation much easier and less stressful because the 
>>>>>> dispatcher put the information into the system directly which 
>>>>>> wirelessly communicated with the responding paramedic vehicle in my 
>>>>>> area.
>>>>>> Technically, the fire department, paramedics and police department do 
>>>>>> have Odie listed in their computer system, so they're fully aware of 
>>>>>> him.
>>>>>> On the other side of the flip coin however if handler were to pass 
>>>>>> out or get hit by a car, then truth is that what are they to do then?
>>>>>> Another important factor for me was to get to know all the firemen, 
>>>>>> paramedics and police officers as a whole so they could be educated 
>>>>>> not just on blindness, but also the importance of a guide/assistance 
>>>>>> dog.
>>>>>> All of us do have a way of doing things and I say what works best for 
>>>>>> one may not work for another.
>>>>>> Just my thoughts on this one.
>>>>>> *Smiles*
>>>>>> Bibi and Odie
>>>>>> the happy spirited bounty labra wolf
>>>>>>
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