[nagdu] Guide Dog Handler Bill of Rights

[Jordan Gallacher]

This is pointless.  The schools will oppose, and rightfully so.  The schools
have more power than NAGDU does and I guarantee that most schools will make
it hard for something that they don't like and affects their business to go
anywhere.  This is like buying a car.  There are no perfect matches.  You
find the one that most closely matches what you are looking for.  
Jordan

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Peter Donahue
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 9:15 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide Dog Handler Bill of Rights

Hello Cindy and everyone,

    If I'm to change schools again I want everything I want! Most is not an 
option. Otherwise there's no point in switching. This discussion has taken 
place before as well.

Peter Donahue

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide Dog Handler Bill of Rights


Well, here are problems I see. There are issues about puppy raisers 
communicating with alums, ownership, removing dogs without just cause from a

persobn. There are other issues. What is the tone of the appliation material

and class material. All of it used to be way more custodial than it is now, 
even telling you what to bring for clothes and some other stuff. TSE used to

have more of a dress code than they do now. My first trip there I had a war 
with the nurse because she would check out the key to the organ to me to 
unlock the thing, and when we ordered pizza we didn't dish up our own. 
Things have gradually improved. There are a lot of schools in the country, 
and mostly they are good, reputable ones. One school will be doing something

that you are not happy with. A school will make you so mad that you may 
decide to publicly blast the school to kingdom come; you can choose another 
school and get most of what you want by way of doing so. Jordan hates The 
Seeing Eye now because he went there once and had a bad experience for 
whatever reason. He switched to GDB, with whom he is more compatible. I 
wouldn't go there because I don't like the kind of relationship that seems 
to exist with regard to puppy raisers or ownership. We can pretty much 
choose what we want. So I think legislation doesn't make sense. Because 
there are lots of options, and people are not on the same page, you will 
have trouble gtting people (and I mean the users) to agree on what we are 
working on. If one could get the Federation of Guide Dog Schools to have 
pretty much the same policies on certain issues, that would be the route to 
take. One very important issue would maybe be ownership, and certainly one 
would be how they determine if a dog should be removed from you. I think the

removal of a dog without ause would certainly be a unifying position. That 
might require some definitions, but within those there would need to be some

flexibility to be sure.



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