[nagdu] Your critique Invited!

[d m gina]

Sheila, one time a guy being polite here was doing just the same thing 
whistling.
I turned and said "how sad this is the only art you know."
I thought you were smarter than that just whistling.
He got so embarrassed the manager said he ran out of the store.
This was a wall mart thing.

Original message:
> Very interesting good points that is for sure. Yesterday I had to tell 
> someone not to whistle at my dogs.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aaron Cannon <cannona at fireantproductions.com>
> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 3:45 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Your critique Invited!

> Hi.

> Here are my edits.  You can pick and choose as you like.  I would,
> however, be interested in seeing an updated version, if you do in fact
> incorporate any of these changes into the document.


> Original:
> When you see a guide dog at work you are watching a team with each
> partner contributing to the team effort. As the head of the team, the
> blind person’s role is to maintain control of the guide dog and to
> direct the guide dog to where the handler wants to go. The blind
> person does this by giving the dog directional commands, such as
> “Forward”, ”Left”, and “Right”, which are sometimes accompanied by
> hand commands. The guide dog’s role in this partnership is to obey
> these commands, except when to do so would place the team in danger.

> My Version:
> When you see a guide dog at work, you are watching a team, with each
> partner contributing to the team effort. As the head of the team, the
> blind person’s role is to maintain control of the guide dog and to
> direct the guide dog to where the handler wants to go. The blind
> person does this by giving the dog directional commands, such as
> “Forward”, “Left”, and “Right”, which are sometimes accompanied by
> hand jestures. The guide dog’s role in this partnership is to obey
> these commands, except when to do so would place the team in danger.
> For example, if a handler were to ask his guide dog to go forward when
> there was a sudden drop-off directly ahead, the guide dog would refuse
> to obey.


> original:
> 1. It is a violation of state & federal laws to deny access to a
> disabled person accompanied by a service animal. This includes stores,
> restaurants, taxicabs,
> parks, health care facilities, zoos, or any other place the general
> public is admitted. The law prohibits public carriers such as buses,
> trains, or planes
> from refusing to serve a disabled individual accompanied by a service
> animal. Furthermore, a disabled person accompanied by a service animal
> has the same
> rights as other passengers to choose where they sit on such carriers
> where no other legally established seating requirements exists.

> my version:
> 1. It is a violation of both state & federal law to segrigate or deny
> access to a disabled person accompanied by a service animal. These
> laws apply to stores, restaurants, taxicabs, parks, health care
> facilities, zoos, and any other place the general public is admitted.
> The law also prohibits public carriers such as buses, trains, or
> planes from refusing to serve a disabled individual accompanied by a
> service animal. Furthermore, a disabled person accompanied by a
> service animal has the same rights as other passengers to choose where
> they sit on such carriers where no other legally established seating
> requirements exist.

> Original:
> 2. When you meet a guide dog or other service animal in public, it is
> working. It is important that others do not interfere with the dog’s
> work; therefore,
> Never touch a guide dog nor its gear, never call a guide dog by name
> or speak to it, and do not intentionally make noises to distract the
> dog.

> My version:
> 2. When you meet a guide dog or other service animal in public, it is
> working. It is important that no one interfere with the dog’s work;
> therefore, you should never touch a guide dog nor its gear, never call
> or speak to a guide dog, and never intentionally do anything for the
> purpose of distracting or getting the dogs attention.

> Original:
> 3. Never feed a service dog,  since feeding it may make working the
> dog    difficult in places where food is present, such as in
> restaurants and grocery
> stores.

> My version:
> 3. Never feed a service dog,  since feeding it may make working the
> dog    difficult in places where food is present, such as in
> restaurants and grocery stores.  In addition, many dogs can be quite
> sensative to certain types of foods, so there is a very real
> possibility that you may make the dog ill and unable to work.

> Original:
> 6. When giving directions to a blind person, speak to the person. Do
> not call the dog or try to get it to follow you. Guide dog users
> sometimes use a “Follow”
> command but the blind person will give it. Also, let the blind person
> know about turns to be made so the blind person can give the proper
> direction to
> the dog.


> My version:
> 6. When giving directions to a blind person, speak to the person. Do
> not call the dog or try to get it to follow you. Guide dog users
> sometimes use a “Follow” command, but the blind person is the one who
> will give this command. Whether the blind person follows you or you
> simply tell the blind person where to go, it is important to give
> specific directions such as "left" and "right", rather than "over
> there" or "thataway".


> My version:
>       7. Consistent discipline is key to a successful guide dog team.
> Ordinarily, verbal admonitions are used to maintain control. If this
> fails it may become necessary for the blind person to use a firm tug
> on the leash. This does not hurt the dog; it simply brings the dog's
> attention back to its job.

> Original:
> You see more blind people on the streets today, not because there are
> more of us, but because we have learned to make our own way in the
> world. A major
> factor in this progress is the National Federation of the Blind, the
> oldest & largest organization of the blind. We are blind people
> speaking for ourselves
> and acting for ourselves, working as equal partners with our sighted neighbors.

> My version:
> You may have noticed more blind people on the streets today, not
> because there are more of us, but because we have learned to make our
> own way in the world. A major
> factor in this progress has been the National Federation of the Blind,
> the oldest & largest organization of the blind. We are blind people
> speaking for ourselves
> and acting for ourselves, working as equal partners with our sighted neighbors.

> Original:
> If you found this information interesting, perhaps you know others who
> would, as well! Please feel free to pass this on!


> My version:
> If you found this information interesting or helpful, perhaps you know
> others who would, as well! Please feel free to pass this on!



> Hope this helps.

> Looking forward to printing and passing out some of these.

> Thanks.

> Aaron

> On 5/14/11, Steven Johnson <blinddog3 at charter.net> wrote:
>> Let me think on that for a bit.  I am thinking that the word public should
>> be in the title at some point with a direction leaning toward...
>> Understanding the role of Dog Guides in Public

>> Steve

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Marion Gwizdala
>> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 2:29 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Your critique Invited!

>> steve,
>>     Do you have any suggestions for a different title?

>> Marion


>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Steven Johnson" <blinddog3 at charter.net>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 3:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Your critique Invited!


>>> Marion, it is straight to the point, and from my viewpoint, contains the
>>> *essential information* that the general public needs to know.  Any more
>>> details would be overkill.

>>> Steve Johnson, WAGDU President
>>> Wisconsin Association of Guide Dog Users

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>>> Of Marion Gwizdala
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 2:14 PM
>>> To: NAGDU List; Michael Hingson; Sherrill O'Brien; Toni Whaley; Margo
>>> Downey; Meghan Whalen; Tina Thomas; Correspondence Committee Mailing List
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Your critique Invited!

>>> Dear All,
>>>    As president of the National Asociation of Guide Dog Users, I am
>>> editing
>>> our brochure. I have attached the edits I have made and would like the
>>> input
>>> of those who I trust to help in such endeavors. As a guide dog user, I
>>> know
>>> what I want the public to know, but would like to know if there is
>>> anything
>>> "the public" would like to know that I might have missed! I would also
>>> like
>>> to know if you have any better suggestions for the title of this piece. My
>>> deadline to submit the final copy is Monday, so please offer your feedback
>>> before then!

>>> Peace!
>>> Marion Gwizdala




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