[nagdu] a blind consumer's Right to Choose rehabtraining(federalregs)

Sat Nov 12 01:54:02 UTC 2011

Write me offlist.  I thaught I heard something about that out therre!  You 
are in Oregon?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tami Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] a blind consumer's Right to Choose 
rehabtraining(federalregs)


> Larry,
>
> I keep trying to say something about our VR agency and find I have way too 
> much to say... The short version would just sound like frothing 
> accusations and not communicate anything effective. Bummer about that, eh? 
> /grin/ I wonder if it would make me feel better to go with that format 
> anyway? Just kidding! I would only be making myself feel stupid, and who 
> needs that?
>
> I think I just got a real bonus in procuring something I really need to 
> get back to vocation... I still can't believ it, but... Who knew? Mitzi 
> will be happy because I will have more time for her and be much less 
> grumpy in general.
>
> Tami
>
> On 11/11/2011 08:11 AM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>> We could say a lot more than that! But we won't.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marion Gwizdala" 
>> <blind411 at verizon.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 8:46 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a blind consumer's Right to Choose rehab
>> training(federalregs)
>>
>>
>>> Bibi,
>>> Much of how blind people view themselves is based on how society has
>>> taught them. When the so called experts tell them how limited they
>>> are, they believe them. They are, after all, the experts and they
>>> know, right? Well, the experts here in Florida are telling a blind
>>> person that the ministry is not a realistic vocation for a blind
>>> person. This, in spite of the fact that he holds a master degree in
>>> divinity! Tell one of our several blind ministers, which include a
>>> Catholic priest, a Mormon bishop, and numerous other pastors that the
>>> ministry is not a realistic endeavor for a blind person. Can we all
>>> say, "Hmm!"?
>>>
>>> Fraternally yours,
>>> Marion
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Criminal Justice Major
>>> Extraordinaire" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 12:07 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a blind consumer's Right to Choose rehab
>>> training(federalregs)
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi, Lorraine,
>>>> Lots of times, it also depends on an individual trying to make the
>>>> best out of things for themselves.
>>>> Many people may think that the training centers are bad, but truth
>>>> falls on each individual toward the end of whether they choose to try
>>>> to take things seriously or if they don't show that initiative.
>>>> A friend of mine who I was in the summer program here at the Colorado
>>>> Center for the Blind.
>>>> A friend of hers ended up going blind because of something careless
>>>> him and the roommate did to one another.
>>>> The individual is only getting a certificate, more due to the fact he
>>>> doesn't have a good outcome and hasn't show he's taking things
>>>> seriously in life.
>>>> The individual desplays that "know it all" attitude, but he won't try
>>>> to do things for himself and show the poor blind me problem.
>>>> I stressed a lot while attending the training center, but made it
>>>> through.
>>>> I wanted a guide dog, but waited everything out until I had
>>>> completely finished up with training.
>>>> At the Denver Vocational Rehabilitation office, I had a great
>>>> mobility instructor who took her time with me and always seemed
>>>> impressed with how well Odie and I communicated as a guide dog team.
>>>> This same instructor always took her time explaining things to me and
>>>> wanted me to do things step by step to avoid frustration.
>>>> I'm now having to do refresher with O&M again, but my hopes are I end
>>>> up having the instructor I had during my brush up before.
>>>> Now that the hurdle I've dealt with for a couple of months has been
>>>> dealt with, I can look into getting my next successor guide dog.
>>>> Just my thoughts here.
>>>> Bibi and Odie
>>>> the happy spirited bounty labra wolf
>>>>
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