[nagdu] guide dog schools

Sun Oct 16 04:30:34 UTC 2011

thanks Larry; I'll take a look at the offered list of schools and maybe give
some of them a call on Monday :)

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Larry D. Keeler
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 7:14 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog schools

Oh Hannah.  If you are an NFB member or for that matter not, you can go to
WWW.nfb.org and look at the topic links.  They have all of the dog schools
listed there with the numbers and addresses.  Thats where I found out about
Eye of the Pacific!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog schools


>I completely agree with all you've said Lea especially about the 
>ownership  part. :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Lea williams
> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 4:48 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog schools
>
> Hey everyone. I am new on this list andhave been reading the messages 
> and messaging a few off list. I am looking in to a guide dog too, but 
> this thred is Hannah's and not mine but for the partual ownership 
> thing my thoughts on it are these.
>
> I understand that a guide dog user would wantfull ownership of their 
> dog as soon as they graduate, but it is not always about the owner 
> having ownership, but also about the safey of the dog. If someone 
> seems to be a good person to have a dog, and the school give them 
> fullownership and they go home and start to abuse the dog, over feed 
> it, or whatever the case might be, the school would have a much harder 
> time to take back the dog for it's own safey. If you believe that you 
> can be responciple enough to take care of the dog the correct way and 
> maintain its health and training, then you have nothing to worry 
> about.
>
> Hannah, you have described guiding eyes for the blind, try to look in 
> to them.
> They pay up to $200 anual for vet care, and maybe more if their are 
> some very bad health issues.
> They keep ownership for the first two years to insure the safey of the 
> dog and to make sure that both the owner and the dog works out well.
> They have tuns of reps all up and down the east coast, not sure of 
> anyplace else.
> They do come out and check on you and your dog for the first few years 
> to insure your doing fine and the dog is not getting fat or losing 
> it's training.
> They really seem to care about both the dog and the people getting the 
> dogs.
> Now if you are one of those people who insist on complete privacy, 
> control and want to be the one to go to the school for help, then I do 
> not think you would like this school.
> I know i am responcible enough to do these things myself but, i have 
> heard a lot of good things threw other friends about this school and 
> would like to look in to them more myself.
> All to their own.
> If your a bit nervous and would feel more at ease with having someone 
> checking up on you every now and then to make sure your doing ok,then 
> hey you might like them after all. It is not as if they are going to 
> be spying on you every day or something, they just want to know that 
> you and your dog are getting along well and nothing wrong is going on.
>
> Now i have seen some peopel who has gotten a dog and abused it but 
> they have full ownership of their dog and their is not much the school 
> can do about it now. Is it fare to those dogs to get misstreated and 
> noone come rescue them like that? At least if a dog from guiding eyes 
> is being misstreated they have a chance of being rescued,
>
> These are my thoughts and
> my understanding that not all think like me.
>
> Lea williams
>
> On 10/15/11, Hannah Chadwick <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net> wrote:
>> I know I can pay for food and toys and such but sometimes vet bills 
>> can be pretty costly. Also it seems like some guide dog schools work 
>> with petco to offer discounts.
>> I think sharing ownership for the first year or so would reassure me 
>> in case something goes wrong with the dog.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Steven Johnson
>> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 4:08 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog schools
>>
>> Hi Hannah,
>> One of the things you might want to consider as many of have been 
>> there or are in a very similar situation as yours, is to check with 
>> your vet to see if you can make monthly payments on your bill.  My 
>> guide's vet costs annually for her major spring work up are usually 
>> pushing $400+.  The other thing is to see if they offer a reduced 
>> rate or discount to service dog users...many do.
>> Now on the first part of your post, you might want to really look at 
>> the idea of ownership closely.  I do know that Leader Dogs for 
>> theBlind has a 2-year wait until one can apply for ownership which I 
>> personally find unacceptable.  Ownership to many of us on this list 
>> is a big part of our independence, and the NAGDU continues to 
>> advocate hard to get all schools to grant ownership upon graduation.  
>> Let me ask, that is if you feel comfortable in answering to the 
>> group, but why do you think you need to have a time period before 
>> ownership is
> granted?  Curious minds want to know.
>>
>> BTW, my name is Steve and I am working my 3rd black lab from Leader 
>> Dogs.  I have had my guides since 1992, and I am the current 
>> President of the Wisconsin Association of Guide Dog Users.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Hannah Chadwick
>> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 5:55 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: [nagdu] guide dog schools
>>
>> Hi all,
>> I think working with a school with many representatives in a lot of 
>> the States would be a plus for me in case something goes wrong. Also 
>> I'd want to attend a school where I don't have complete ownership of 
>> the dog, at least for now since I'm a college student. Being a 
>> college student, I will also need financial help from the guide dog 
>> school for vets. I'm not sure if this is asking for a lot or if there 
>> are any schools
> that offer these things.
>> Please let me know if you have suggestions or ideas.
>> Thanks in advance, Hannah
>>
>>
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