[nagdu] no result

Sun Oct 16 17:41:56 UTC 2011

I looked it up anyway Julie, wow you really goofed on my name for shame 
ROFL. Madame Secretary. LOL.

I always like to learn especially in my business.

Need to know about NY, so I can sell it as well.

Leading the Way in Independent Travel!

Cheryl Echevarria
http://www.echevarriatravel.com
631-456-5394
reservations at echevarriatravel.com

Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Superior Travel, located in 
Baldwin, NY. www.superiortravel.com

Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Absolute Cruise & Travel, Inc.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Julie Phillipson" <jbrew48 at verizon.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] no result

> Larry it is in upstate New York near Buffalo.  I thought I would answer 
> this
> because charel is Long Island which is the other end of the state and I am
> in  Buffalo which is more near where Cazenovia is.
> Julie Phillipson
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 1:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] no result
>
>
> > Cheryl, sence you are from New york, where is Cazenovia?  You can write
> > offlist if you choose but my daughter coached soccer there yesterday.
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 1:20 PM
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] no result
> >
> >
> >> you are so welcome.
> >>
> >> Leading the Way in Independent Travel!
> >>
> >> Cheryl Echevarria
> >> http://www.echevarriatravel.com
> >> 631-456-5394
> >> reservations at echevarriatravel.com
> >>
> >> Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Superior Travel, located 
> >> in
> >> Baldwin, NY. www.superiortravel.com
> >>
> >> Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Absolute Cruise & Travel,
> >> Inc.
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
> >> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> >> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 1:12 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] no result
> >>
> >>
> >>> I only mentioned the NFB website because thats where I found the list 
> >>> of
> >>> schools.  Thanks Cheryl for pointing other places where it can be 
> >>> found!
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
> >>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> >>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >>> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 1:05 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] no result
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > This is also members at large, which is you are part of the NFB, but
> >>> > you
> >>> > don't belong to a chapter.
> >>> >
> >>> > Leading the Way in Independent Travel!
> >>> >
> >>> > Cheryl Echevarria
> >>> > http://www.echevarriatravel.com
> >>> > 631-456-5394
> >>> > reservations at echevarriatravel.com
> >>> >
> >>> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Superior Travel, 
> >>> > located
> >>> > in
> >>> > Baldwin, NY. www.superiortravel.com
> >>> >
> >>> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Absolute Cruise & 
> >>> > Travel,
> >>> > Inc.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>> > From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
> >>> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> >>> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >>> > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 12:55 PM
> >>> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] no result
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >> Sounds like a plan.  I didn't think that all the listers weren't 
> >>> >> also
> >>> >> NFB
> >>> >> members.  Also, I'm not even a current member as there is no 
> >>> >> chapter
> >>> >> close
> >>> >> enough to me although I have contact with the Beach Cities chapter 
> >>> >> in
> >>> >> Carlsbad, CA.  I was an active member of NFB back in the late 90s
> >>> >> until
> >>> >> 2001
> >>> >> when our local chapter died for lack of interest.  San Diego has
> >>> >> always
> >>> >> been
> >>> >> an ACB territory - there's two chapters of that here but they 
> >>> >> really
> >>> >> could
> >>> >> merge to get a larger amoount of members.  But, it is what it is.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Bibi, hopefully, this problem gets resolved favorably for you.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Lyn and Landon
> >>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>> >> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
> >>> >> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog 
> >>> >> Users"
> >>> >> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >>> >> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 10:20 AM
> >>> >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] no result
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> > Bibi may not be part of the NFB Lyn. So we should be asking her 
> >>> >> > to
> >>> >> > contact
> >>> >> > her local NFB Chapter or we can give her the information in her
> >>> >> > state
> >>> >> > for
> >>> >> > them.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > There are many on this list that comes to learn and listen, 
> >>> >> > whether
> >>> >> > they
> >>> >> > are guide dog users, puppy raisers, or sponsor a dog. So they may
> >>> >> > not
> >>> >> > be
> >>> >> > part of the organization.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > The lists are free to anyone who needs to know more about us.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > So I am asking.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Bibi, should you need the contact in your state for the President
> >>> >> > we
> >>> >> > can
> >>> >> > get you that information, and that person, get you in touch with
> >>> >> > that
> >>> >> > chapter president.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Have a great day all.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Leading the Way in Independent Travel!
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Cheryl Echevarria
> >>> >> > http://www.echevarriatravel.com
> >>> >> > 631-456-5394
> >>> >> > reservations at echevarriatravel.com
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Superior Travel,
> >>> >> > located
> >>> >> > in
> >>> >> > Baldwin, NY. www.superiortravel.com
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Absolute Cruise &
> >>> >> > Travel,
> >>> >> > Inc.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>> >> > From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
> >>> >> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> >>> >> > Users"
> >>> >> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >>> >> > Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 1:00 PM
> >>> >> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] no result
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >> Hi Bibi,
> >>> >> >> Just for clarification:  Just what does Odie do for you if she
> >>> >> >> isn't a
> >>> >> >> guide
> >>> >> >> dog?  Can you just use her as a guide dog and the apartment
> >>> >> >> manager
> >>> >> >> has
> >>> >> >> no
> >>> >> >> choice but to accept her presence?
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> With the many years of folks abusing the ADA and what exactly is 
> >>> >> >> a
> >>> >> >> service
> >>> >> >> dog, they have now caused this problem that affects all of us in
> >>> >> >> one
> >>> >> >> way
> >>> >> >> or
> >>> >> >> another.  You know, with people bringing their untrained pet 
> >>> >> >> dogs
> >>> >> >> into
> >>> >> >> public spaces and the dogs create problems with bad behavior.  I
> >>> >> >> think
> >>> >> >> most
> >>> >> >> people are more confused about this than they were before the
> >>> >> >> abuse of
> >>> >> >> ADA.
> >>> >> >> I'm glad that the ADA has finally changed its regulations but it
> >>> >> >> should
> >>> >> >> have
> >>> >> >> been done years ago before all the problems got out of hand.
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> I'm sorry you're having these problems.  Hey, where's your local
> >>> >> >> NFB
> >>> >> >> chapter
> >>> >> >> and why don't they put their money where their mouth is and help
> >>> >> >> you?
> >>> >> >> If
> >>> >> >> your dog is TRAINED to do tasks for your disabilities, then 
> >>> >> >> you're
> >>> >> >> covered
> >>> >> >> by ADA, period and that apartment manager should be in trouble
> >>> >> >> over it
> >>> >> >> all.
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> Lyn and Landon
> >>> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>> >> >> From: "Criminal Justice Major Extraordinaire"
> >>> >> >> <orleans24 at comcast.net>
> >>> >> >> To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
> >>> >> >> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 12:30 AM
> >>> >> >> Subject: [nagdu] no result
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> > Hi, all,
> >>> >> >> > Service dog battle still continues on and there's no result as
> >>> >> >> > of
> >>> >> >> > yet.
> >>> >> >> > When I spoke with the assistant manager, next response I got 
> >>> >> >> > was
> >>> >> >> > that
> >>> >> >> > CHAFA and some other founders of the apartment complex are now
> >>> >> >> > standing
> >>> >> >> > by
> >>> >> >> > the manager's side and stating that service dogs fall under 
> >>> >> >> > the
> >>> >> >> > pet
> >>> >> >> > rules,
> >>> >> >> > which I stated before they don't go under there.
> >>> >> >> > So, off to the Colorado Cross Disability Colision I go Monday
> >>> >> >> > with
> >>> >> >> > all
> >>> >> >> > the
> >>> >> >> > necessary appropriate paperwork I need to back myself up in 
> >>> >> >> > the
> >>> >> >> > hopes I
> >>> >> >> > can get further.
> >>> >> >> > I immediately had a letter written by Doctor Jeremy Long which
> >>> >> >> > will
> >>> >> >> > be
> >>> >> >> > out
> >>> >> >> > in the mail and I'll have my hands on it.
> >>> >> >> > I was so frustrated and angry yesterday afternoon, that I
> >>> >> >> > actually
> >>> >> >> > felt
> >>> >> >> > as
> >>> >> >> > if I wanted to just go downstairs and punch the apartment
> >>> >> >> > manager.
> >>> >> >> > This would not have been the first time I felt the need to 
> >>> >> >> > just
> >>> >> >> > destroy
> >>> >> >> > her into many pieces.
> >>> >> >> > It's happened before a couple years back and other times.
> >>> >> >> > That didn't happen as I took the smart approach and 
> >>> >> >> > immediately
> >>> >> >> > contacted
> >>> >> >> > the Outtpaitient Behavioral Services department at Denver 
> >>> >> >> > Health
> >>> >> >> > Medical
> >>> >> >> > and ended up being connected to a crysis nurse who was able to
> >>> >> >> > help
> >>> >> >> > talk
> >>> >> >> > me through what was going on and happening.
> >>> >> >> > Normally to do another intake if not seen at a particular 
> >>> >> >> > clenic
> >>> >> >> > for
> >>> >> >> > a
> >>> >> >> > long time can be three weeks out.
> >>> >> >> > Scott the nurse felt that was too long for me to wait, so he's
> >>> >> >> > going
> >>> >> >> > to
> >>> >> >> > try and push to get me in sooner.
> >>> >> >> > I told him that a couple years back, I worked with Dr.
> >>> >> >> > Lowdermilk
> >>> >> >> > and
> >>> >> >> > was
> >>> >> >> > told that she permamently works there now.
> >>> >> >> > Scott's hope is to be able to get me connected with DR.
> >>> >> >> > Lowdermilk
> >>> >> >> > so I
> >>> >> >> > can get in or at least, she would be able to talk with me
> >>> >> >> > directly.
> >>> >> >> > I wonder if it just may be me personally, but maybe others may
> >>> >> >> > go
> >>> >> >> > through
> >>> >> >> > similarities as me.
> >>> >> >> > Do you have them moments of where you feel as if you're being
> >>> >> >> > mocho
> >>> >> >> > or
> >>> >> >> > tough upon holding feelings back and it seems nothing is going
> >>> >> >> > to
> >>> >> >> > push
> >>> >> >> > you
> >>> >> >> > over the edge?
> >>> >> >> > I guess for some time, I felt that I was in denial of this
> >>> >> >> > particular
> >>> >> >> > situation bugging the creepers cheesers out of me and finally,
> >>> >> >> > it
> >>> >> >> > was
> >>> >> >> > too
> >>> >> >> > much.
> >>> >> >> > I immediately went into melt down on the phone yesterday.
> >>> >> >> > I started to feel in despair as I was losing an important 
> >>> >> >> > battle
> >>> >> >> > not
> >>> >> >> > just
> >>> >> >> > for myself, but for other people with disabilities who have
> >>> >> >> > service
> >>> >> >> > dogs
> >>> >> >> > and important of all, guide dogs.
> >>> >> >> > The big concern of why I was trying to hold everything back 
> >>> >> >> > and
> >>> >> >> > stay
> >>> >> >> > as
> >>> >> >> > calm as I could was to prevent a full blown severe asthma 
> >>> >> >> > attack
> >>> >> >> > and
> >>> >> >> > another convulsive grandmal seizure too.
> >>> >> >> > Eventually, everything was going to have to come out, one way 
> >>> >> >> > or
> >>> >> >> > the
> >>> >> >> > other, despite a possible medical consequence.
> >>> >> >> > I was told not to give up this battle and keep fighting for my
> >>> >> >> > rights,
> >>> >> >> > but
> >>> >> >> > also for others as well.
> >>> >> >> > Will post more once I am able to meet with the Colorado cross
> >>> >> >> > Disability
> >>> >> >> > Colision on Monday and it won't be just them either that will
> >>> >> >> > get
> >>> >> >> > another
> >>> >> >> > update.
> >>> >> >> > The Colorado Legal Aid Center for People with Disabilities and
> >>> >> >> > Elderly
> >>> >> >> > People will get it too.
> >>> >> >> > I am not going to give up on this and if I have to do this
> >>> >> >> > alone, it
> >>> >> >> > is
> >>> >> >> > still going to be won.
> >>> >> >> > *Smiles*
> >>> >> >> > Bibi and Odie
> >>> >> >> > the happy spirited bounty labra wolf
> >>> >> >> >
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