[nagdu] bigger dogs was School Applications

Julie J. julielj at neb.rr.com
Thu Sep 8 16:57:47 UTC 2011 

Both of my dogs are lab mixes.  Belle is a mystery, maybe Greyhound, but 
I really don't know.  Monty is lab and Boxer mix.

Julie

> That must be a poodle thing!  Holly and for that matter Pez can curl 
> up extremely small!
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 11:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] bigger dogs was School Applications
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>> Tami,
>>
>> It's interesting that Monty is much easier to fit into small spaces 
>> than Belle ever was.  Belle is 24 or 25 inches at the shoulder and 
>> about 75 pounds.  Monty is like 27 inches tall and 85 pounds.  
>> However he curls up. Belle is not an adept curler.
>>
>> I don't think I could work with one of the tiny guides that are so 
>> popular these days.  Well tiny to me.  To everyone else they are 
>> normal sized! *smile*  I really enjoy my big and tall dog.
>>
>> Julie
>>
>>
>> On 9/8/2011 10:45 AM, Tami Kinney wrote:
>>> Yup. So I do like hearing from Pilot grads to learn more about their
>>> interactions with that program and the dogs they get. In the guide dog
>>> world at large, they seem to have a mixed reputation these days. In
>>> another 4 or 5 years? Who knows! Also, since I don't have a medical
>>> reason for a poodle, I may not even then be able to get one through a
>>> program, depending on supply and demand. I'm also watching Guide Dog of
>>> the Desert out here, since I guess you can get a poodle from them just
>>> because you want one, if you're willing for the extra wait. The people
>>> with a medical need for one will, naturally, take precedent. Still, 
>>> it's
>>> an interesting new avenue to consider... I honestly do want to
>>> owner-train again, but one needs to have a lot of factors in place 
>>> to do
>>> that... So I like watching options evolve. Of course, another reason 
>>> I'm
>>> interested in Pilot is because they do produce some dobie guides. They
>>> are my strong second choice, except at grooming time when I'm 
>>> mournfully
>>> emptying my wallet to pay the groomer. /smile/ Then of course, I am
>>> reunited with my freshly shaved and cleaned and very happy poodle and
>>> can't imagine why I would want anything but her! /smile/
>>>
>>> I did finally meet a young giant schnauzer, watching him follow Mitzi
>>> around -- after she poodle slapped him into submission. He was ten
>>> months, still not neutered, so I guess she wanted to be sure he
>>> understood the rules. He adored her for that, which totally cracked me
>>> and everybody else up. The owner was well informed about the breed, 
>>> so I
>>> got a lot of good information. Then I noted that the pup was leaning
>>> against me at a little above mid-thigh and still had another growth
>>> spurt or two in him before he was done with skeletal growth and started
>>> to fill out.,.. Oh, that's why everybody was going on about the size of
>>> his feet. Yikes! Well, some poodle guides get pretty big, as do some
>>> doodle guides... I love big, big dogs, frankly, but... Where do you put
>>> all that when you're trying to ride the bus? There's a new doodle guide
>>> user here with a big fella, so I need to break down and ask her. I 
>>> can't
>>> figure out what to do with my 55-pounder that's really satisfactory.
>>> She's all legs. So when the bus or train is crowded, even in the 
>>> Honored
>>> Citizen (ha
>>> !) section, I spend my ride time feeling troubled about all the poodle
>>> leg I have to keep up with to keep them safe, while I"m pretty sure the
>>> poodle with all the legs wishes I would just let her relax a bit and
>>> just stop fussing.  /lol/ Unfortunately, when she settles down safely
>>> and starts to relax, there go the legs! And then the nose and ... I
>>> should have got it figured out by now, I really should have, but now
>>> when I see a good example of any breed that might be considered as a
>>> guide dog, my fist thought is how to fit it on the bus! /lol/
>>>
>>> And I do enjoy watching the labbies at work. Especially the yellow 
>>> ones,
>>> since they're about the only dogs I can pick up manners and behaviors
>>> and movements of, as well as the golden eyes because of the
>>> contrast. /smile/ It's really easy to see why they are so numerous, and
>>> why the goldens are and the mix of the two. They always seem to be just
>>> so ... easy. Comparatively. /smile/ A yellow lab user who was quite
>>> taken with Mitzi, jokingly offered to trade dogs not too long ago. I
>>> found myself thinking that one over. The lab was younger than Mitzi and
>>> about a zillion times less busy. Sweet personality, still some 'tude 
>>> out
>>> of harness, playful. Certainly a good guide still learning not to be 
>>> too
>>> strong for the handler, but obviously by now pretty easy and they work
>>> together in an interesting way as a team that appears to work really
>>> well. But compared to my adored and adorable poodle guide, just totally
>>> laid back. Would I like a taste of the quiet life, I wondered? Nah...
>>> When I'm ready for the quiet life, then I look forward to having such a
>>> lab or that mellow -- in my view -- lab type. But for now, I'll stick
>>> with the wild and crazy poodle life. /smile/
>>>
>>> Besides, the poodle would drive my friend crazy in no time. Teehee.
>>>
>>> Tami
>>>
>>> On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 18:38 -0400, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>>>> Of course, if you want a poodle Pilot is the place sence they 
>>>> actually breed
>>>> them there instead of waiting for donations.  However, I think that 
>>>> the
>>>> doodles are donated.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Tami Kinney"<tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
>>>> To:<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 5:28 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] School Applications
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Gary,
>>>>>
>>>>> Turns out there are a bunch of people with dogs from Guide Dogs of 
>>>>> the
>>>>> Desert here in Oregon. Not all are poodles or doodles, but they do 
>>>>> seem
>>>>> to have some good poodle lines these days. Still a long wait for a
>>>>> poodle, but the handlers with GDD dogs all seem really happy with 
>>>>> their
>>>>> experience. And with the trainer that seems to work with many 
>>>>> grads in
>>>>> this area. So it's fun getting to learn more about that program, 
>>>>> which
>>>>> is pretty small still. Except for GDB, it seems like I have learned a
>>>>> whole lot about the programs east of the Mississippi, because that's
>>>>> where so many of the guide dog users I know are from. Huh.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, I don't know what the wait for GDD is with other breeds, but
>>>>> they still say to plan for about a year for a poodle. Apparently,
>>>>> though, you don't *have* to have a medical need for one; however, you
>>>>> will have to wait longer, This from the poodle and doodle users 
>>>>> around
>>>>> here. Anyway, that's the scoop.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tami
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 12:38 -0700, GARY STEEVES wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Meranda applied at 3 schools. I was looking for a poodle so was
>>>>>> limited in which schools could help. I got my paperwork into all the
>>>>>> schools in August or september and got Bogart in the following 
>>>>>> may. I
>>>>>> also had heard back from guide dogs of the desert and would have 
>>>>>> been
>>>>>> accepted into a fall class with them which would have been about 
>>>>>> a year
>>>>>> waiting. When applying for a poodle I had prepared myself for 
>>>>>> such long
>>>>>> waits so was happy with how quick it was.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My suggestion is to look at which schools meet the majority of 
>>>>>> the needs
>>>>>> you have and what you find important and apply to them. It is always
>>>>>> good, if possible, to talk to grads from different programs to 
>>>>>> get their
>>>>>> feelings on the school as long as you remember that  everyone is
>>>>>> different so their impressions will vary as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: Julie McGinnity<kaybaycar at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Date: Monday, September 5, 2011 2:57 pm
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] School Applications
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
>>>>>> Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Miranda.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I was applying to schools, I applied to more than
>>>>>>> one.  I took
>>>>>>> the one that accepted me the quickest.  I am a student and
>>>>>>> was at the
>>>>>>> time I went to get a guide dog, so I needed somewhere that could 
>>>>>>> place
>>>>>>> me in the Summer.  It all depends.  I got an interview
>>>>>>> in a month and
>>>>>>> a half or so, and then I went to  class 2 months after
>>>>>>> that.  I think
>>>>>>> it usually takes longer though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I did call to check on my application, so I know it's not
>>>>>>> abnormal to
>>>>>>> call and check on things.  It is also easy if you can email
>>>>>>> someone in
>>>>>>> admissions to ask them the status of your home interview--if it has
>>>>>>> been planned yet...  I don't there would be anything wrong
>>>>>>> with this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/5/11, Cindy Ray<cindyray at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> Well, all I can say is if they don't, call again. First of
>>>>>>> all, I suspect
>>>>>>>> that sometimes these things go slower because of vacations and
>>>>>>> the like.
>>>>>>>> Sometimes they send trainers and the trainers are also
>>>>>>> training dogs and the
>>>>>>>> like. I think it would nbe helpful if they would let us know
>>>>>>> some kind of
>>>>>>>> time line.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> Julie McG
>>>>>>>   Lindbergh High School class of 2009, participating member
>>>>>>> in Opera
>>>>>>> Theater's Artist in Training Program, and proud graduate of Guiding
>>>>>>> Eyes for the Blind
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> life."
>>>>>>> John 3:16
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