[nagdu] School Applications

Larry D. Keeler lkeeler at comcast.net
Thu Sep 8 19:45:09 UTC 2011


I aggree!  If she would stay under the seat instead of sitting in the isle 
though!  Well, most of the bus drivers know us and when she is really 
blocking the isle I can move her but even some of the drivers think shes 
cute watching everyone!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tami Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] School Applications


> That's a poodle thing. They just have to watch what's going on,
> especially who's coming and going. Life is easier once one learns to
> work that into seating arrangements. /smile/
>
> Tami
>
> On Thu, 2011-09-08 at 12:53 -0400, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>> Not Holly!  She has to sit on the bus and try and creep up to watch 
>> everyone
>> get on!  She doesn't usually lie down unfortunately!  She does everywhere
>> else though!
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "GARY STEEVES" <rainshadowmusic at shaw.ca>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 12:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] School Applications
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Hi Tami:
>> >
>> > Oh, yeah, the poodle natural tendancy  to slowly expand once lying down 
>> > is
>> > just too much fun at rush hour on the bus. I was on a super crowded bus
>> > last week and bogart had lied down. I then usually have to sort of 
>> > slide
>> > him back a bit to put his butt under the seat better but still his paws
>> > and head are sticking out. I just don't trust zoned out people and it
>> > would be a a drag if someone stepped on his paw but his head??? So I
>> > reachedown and lifted bogarts heead up and said pay attention. He did 
>> > for
>> > a minute or two and then decided that there was nothing to pay 
>> > attention
>> > to and put his head back on the floor between everyones feet. Big Sigh! 
>> > So
>> > then I lifted his head and lifted my foot up so I had my toes in the 
>> > air
>> > and heal on the ground and set Bogart's head on my now higher up toe. 
>> > He
>> > found this an acceptaable arrangement. The fellow next to me said "He
>> > would be a good dog if he could just learn to relax eh?" which we both 
>> > had
>> > a big chuckle about. Bogart certainly has relaxing on the bus down to a
>> > science when he feels like it.
>> >
>> > Gary
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Tami Kinney <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
>> > Date: Thursday, September 8, 2011 8:46 am
>> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] School Applications
>> > To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> >
>> >> Yup. So I do like hearing from Pilot grads to learn more about their
>> >> interactions with that program and the dogs they get. In the
>> >> guide dog
>> >> world at large, they seem to have a mixed reputation these days. In
>> >> another 4 or 5 years? Who knows! Also, since I don't have a medical
>> >> reason for a poodle, I may not even then be able to get one
>> >> through a
>> >> program, depending on supply and demand. I'm also watching Guide
>> >> Dog of
>> >> the Desert out here, since I guess you can get a poodle from
>> >> them just
>> >> because you want one, if you're willing for the extra wait. The people
>> >> with a medical need for one will, naturally, take precedent.
>> >> Still, it's
>> >> an interesting new avenue to consider... I honestly do want to
>> >> owner-train again, but one needs to have a lot of factors in
>> >> place to do
>> >> that... So I like watching options evolve. Of course, another
>> >> reason I'm
>> >> interested in Pilot is because they do produce some dobie
>> >> guides. They
>> >> are my strong second choice, except at grooming time when I'm
>> >> mournfullyemptying my wallet to pay the groomer. /smile/ Then of
>> >> course, I am
>> >> reunited with my freshly shaved and cleaned and very happy
>> >> poodle and
>> >> can't imagine why I would want anything but her! /smile/
>> >>
>> >> I did finally meet a young giant schnauzer, watching him follow Mitzi
>> >> around -- after she poodle slapped him into submission. He was ten
>> >> months, still not neutered, so I guess she wanted to be sure he
>> >> understood the rules. He adored her for that, which totally
>> >> cracked me
>> >> and everybody else up. The owner was well informed about the
>> >> breed, so I
>> >> got a lot of good information. Then I noted that the pup was leaning
>> >> against me at a little above mid-thigh and still had another growth
>> >> spurt or two in him before he was done with skeletal growth and
>> >> startedto fill out.,.. Oh, that's why everybody was going on
>> >> about the size of
>> >> his feet. Yikes! Well, some poodle guides get pretty big, as do some
>> >> doodle guides... I love big, big dogs, frankly, but... Where do
>> >> you put
>> >> all that when you're trying to ride the bus? There's a new
>> >> doodle guide
>> >> user here with a big fella, so I need to break down and ask her.
>> >> I can't
>> >> figure out what to do with my 55-pounder that's really satisfactory.
>> >> She's all legs. So when the bus or train is crowded, even in the
>> >> HonoredCitizen (ha
>> >> !) section, I spend my ride time feeling troubled about all the poodle
>> >> leg I have to keep up with to keep them safe, while I"m pretty
>> >> sure the
>> >> poodle with all the legs wishes I would just let her relax a bit and
>> >> just stop fussing.  /lol/ Unfortunately, when she settles
>> >> down safely
>> >> and starts to relax, there go the legs! And then the nose and
>> >> ... I
>> >> should have got it figured out by now, I really should have, but now
>> >> when I see a good example of any breed that might be considered
>> >> as a
>> >> guide dog, my fist thought is how to fit it on the bus! /lol/
>> >>
>> >> And I do enjoy watching the labbies at work. Especially the
>> >> yellow ones,
>> >> since they're about the only dogs I can pick up manners and behaviors
>> >> and movements of, as well as the golden eyes because of the
>> >> contrast. /smile/ It's really easy to see why they are so
>> >> numerous, and
>> >> why the goldens are and the mix of the two. They always seem to
>> >> be just
>> >> so ... easy. Comparatively. /smile/ A yellow lab user who was quite
>> >> taken with Mitzi, jokingly offered to trade dogs not too long
>> >> ago. I
>> >> found myself thinking that one over. The lab was younger than
>> >> Mitzi and
>> >> about a zillion times less busy. Sweet personality, still some
>> >> 'tude out
>> >> of harness, playful. Certainly a good guide still learning not
>> >> to be too
>> >> strong for the handler, but obviously by now pretty easy and
>> >> they work
>> >> together in an interesting way as a team that appears to work really
>> >> well. But compared to my adored and adorable poodle guide, just
>> >> totallylaid back. Would I like a taste of the quiet life, I
>> >> wondered? Nah...
>> >> When I'm ready for the quiet life, then I look forward to having
>> >> such a
>> >> lab or that mellow -- in my view -- lab type. But for now, I'll stick
>> >> with the wild and crazy poodle life. /smile/
>> >>
>> >> Besides, the poodle would drive my friend crazy in no time. Teehee.
>> >>
>> >> Tami
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 18:38 -0400, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>> >> > Of course, if you want a poodle Pilot is the place sence they
>> >> actually breed
>> >> > them there instead of waiting for donations.  However, I
>> >> think that the
>> >> > doodles are donated.
>> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> > From: "Tami Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
>> >> > To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> >> > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 5:28 PM
>> >> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] School Applications
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > > Gary,
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Turns out there are a bunch of people with dogs from Guide
>> >> Dogs of the
>> >> > > Desert here in Oregon. Not all are poodles or doodles, but
>> >> they do seem
>> >> > > to have some good poodle lines these days. Still a long wait
>> >> for a
>> >> > > poodle, but the handlers with GDD dogs all seem really happy
>> >> with their
>> >> > > experience. And with the trainer that seems to work with
>> >> many grads in
>> >> > > this area. So it's fun getting to learn more about that
>> >> program, which
>> >> > > is pretty small still. Except for GDB, it seems like I have
>> >> learned a
>> >> > > whole lot about the programs east of the Mississippi,
>> >> because that's
>> >> > > where so many of the guide dog users I know are from. Huh.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Anyway, I don't know what the wait for GDD is with other
>> >> breeds, but
>> >> > > they still say to plan for about a year for a poodle. Apparently,
>> >> > > though, you don't *have* to have a medical need for one;
>> >> however, you
>> >> > > will have to wait longer, This from the poodle and doodle
>> >> users around
>> >> > > here. Anyway, that's the scoop.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Tami
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 12:38 -0700, GARY STEEVES wrote:
>> >> > >> Hi Meranda applied at 3 schools. I was looking for a poodle
>> >> so was
>> >> > >> limited in which schools could help. I got my paperwork
>> >> into all the
>> >> > >> schools in August or september and got Bogart in the
>> >> following may. I
>> >> > >> also had heard back from guide dogs of the desert and would
>> >> have been
>> >> > >> accepted into a fall class with them which would have been
>> >> about a year
>> >> > >> waiting. When applying for a poodle I had prepared myself
>> >> for such long
>> >> > >> waits so was happy with how quick it was.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> My suggestion is to look at which schools meet the majority
>> >> of the needs
>> >> > >> you have and what you find important and apply to them. It
>> >> is always
>> >> > >> good, if possible, to talk to grads from different programs
>> >> to get their
>> >> > >> feelings on the school as long as you remember that
>> >> everyone is
>> >> > >> different so their impressions will vary as well.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Gary
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > >> From: Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
>> >> > >> Date: Monday, September 5, 2011 2:57 pm
>> >> > >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] School Applications
>> >> > >> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide
>> >> Dog Users"
>> >> > >> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> > Hi Miranda.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > When I was applying to schools, I applied to more than
>> >> > >> > one.  I took
>> >> > >> > the one that accepted me the quickest.  I am a
>> >> student and
>> >> > >> > was at the
>> >> > >> > time I went to get a guide dog, so I needed somewhere
>> >> that could place
>> >> > >> > me in the Summer.  It all depends.  I got an
>> >> interview> >> > in a month and
>> >> > >> > a half or so, and then I went to  class 2 months after
>> >> > >> > that.  I think
>> >> > >> > it usually takes longer though.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > I did call to check on my application, so I know it's not
>> >> > >> > abnormal to
>> >> > >> > call and check on things.  It is also easy if you
>> >> can email
>> >> > >> > someone in
>> >> > >> > admissions to ask them the status of your home interview--
>> >> if it has
>> >> > >> > been planned yet...  I don't there would be anything wrong
>> >> > >> > with this.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > Good luck!
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > On 9/5/11, Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > >> > > Well, all I can say is if they don't, call again. First of
>> >> > >> > all, I suspect
>> >> > >> > > that sometimes these things go slower because of
>> >> vacations and
>> >> > >> > the like.
>> >> > >> > > Sometimes they send trainers and the trainers are also
>> >> > >> > training dogs and the
>> >> > >> > > like. I think it would nbe helpful if they would let us know
>> >> > >> > some kind of
>> >> > >> > > time line.
>> >> > >> > >
>> >> > >> > >
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>> >> > >> > -- 
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