[nagdu] more Questions About accessing
Natalie
nrorrell at qwest.net
Sun Sep 11 03:35:42 UTC 2011
Hi Maria,
Maybe others have responded already, but here goes. When you give the dog a
directional command such as forward, you signal with your hand in that
direction to indicate that's where you want him or her to go.
Best,
Nat and Liam Joshua
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mária Orovcíková" <maria.orovcikova at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
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Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 3:39 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] more Questions About accessing
> Hello to all,
> please would it be somehow possible for anyone to explain hand signals?
> Or where can I learn more about them? I mean hand signals description or
> something.
> Thank you in advance.
> Maria
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
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> Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 4:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] more Questions About accessing
>
>
>> Janice,
>>
>> I broke my foot on July 20. It was in a cast for a bit but didn't heal
>> right. So I had surgery August 12 to fix it. I have 17 more days in the
>> current cast. Then there will be several weeks of physical therapy as I
>> regain movement and gain a bit of muscle. At the end of all of that I
>> will be able to put weight on the foot. I have no idea how long it will
>> take before I can walk again or how well I will be able to walk. I get to
>> start a bit of walking or trying in mid October. I'm hopeful that by
>> Thanksgiving I will be well enough to go places independently again.
>> That's only a guess and a hope though.
>>
>> I cannot leave my home without assistance, since there are steps up to my
>> house. I can open the door to let Monty out, but can't accompany him in
>> the backyard. My son takes him for walks, but Monty is getting
>> absolutely no work. I suspect he'll need some refresher training when
>> I'm ready to have him guide again. In the meantime I'm teaching him new
>> things to help me in the house. The rest will have to sort itself out in
>> time.
>>
>> Good luck with the retraining. She has to give over eventually. I hope
>> your foot heals soon.
>>
>> Julie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/3/2011 3:50 PM, Janice Toothman wrote:
>>> Hi Julie,
>>> Join the club!. I broke my foot more than a month ago. I have been in a
>>> "ski boot". I will be in it for another month because my foot is not
>>> healing -I have osteoporosis. It has been difficult to keep Destiny's
>>> skills up.
>>>
>>> Due to safety issues, GDF recommended that I retrain Destiny in her
>>> breaking habits. It is not going well! She hasn't relieved herself in
>>> close to 18 hours. I think it is going to be a long process. Every time
>>> she doesn't perform by getting "busy" after in lengthen her leash and
>>> stand at the curb and not move for 10 minutes; she is to be put on
>>> tiedown for 15 minutes. It has been rough. She either sits or stands
>>> except for once or twice she tried to go to get to the grass on on yard
>>> and I had to correct her by saying "no" firmly (hopefully, it sounded
>>> firm- I know I responded quickly but how my voice effective my voice
>>> sounded I can't always tell because of my hearing impairment.)
>>> Janice and Destiny (in Retraining)
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/3/2011 1:38 PM, Julie J. wrote:
>>>> We'll see. I don't know how well or how fast I'll be able to walk once
>>>> my broken foot heals. Right now I'm doing no walking! *smile*
>>>> Hopefully I'll be able to work up to my old brisk pace.
>>>>
>>>> Julie
>>>> On 9/3/2011 10:45 AM, Tatyana wrote:
>>>>> Julie,
>>>>>
>>>>> thank you for the interesting notes. Keep on walking and
>>>>> self-confident look make a deal
>>>>>> I extremely rarely have access issues. Rarely am I even asked if
>>>>>> Monty is a service/guide dog, which is perfectly legal for them to
>>>>>> ask. On one occasion I was asked for ID, which is not legal for them
>>>>>> to ask for. However many maybe all? of the guide dog programs issue
>>>>>> ID to their graduates. So if you had particular difficulty with
>>>>>> explaining access laws or did not feel comfortable advocating for
>>>>>> yourself, you would have one of these cards to show.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Okay here are some things that I believe contribute to my very low
>>>>>> incidence of access issues.
>>>>>> I live in a very small town. Everyone knows everyone and I am the
>>>>>> only blind person with a guide dog. They all know me, whether or not
>>>>>> I know them *smile* and they know I'm the real thing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Monty is well groomed and well behaved. He is always an example of
>>>>>> how a guide dog should behave. If he isn't I deal with it
>>>>>> immediately and expediently. I am probably over sensitive about his
>>>>>> behavior since I trained him.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do not stop to discuss whether or not I am allowed in a particular
>>>>>> public place. If a business owner starts in on asking questions I
>>>>>> announce that he is a guide dog, smile, nod and keep on walking. I
>>>>>> have never had anyone chase me down or talk to my back. In short, if
>>>>>> you look like you have every right to be there, you must and they
>>>>>> leave me alone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Monty is not a particularly cute and cuddly looking dog. He is
>>>>>> large, powerful, black and doesn't enjoy visiting with strangers. We
>>>>>> do not get a lot of unwanted attention from random people. Monty is
>>>>>> not at all dangerous, but he's all business when he's in harness.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also know my rights and will not hesitate to explain them should
>>>>>> the need arise. I am a confident person and carry myself that way,
>>>>>> head up, looking straight ahead, calm expression etc. I walk at a
>>>>>> quick pace, which I think people also view as confidence.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope that helps you feel more at ease with possible access issues.
>>>>>> They do come up and you will have to deal with them, but I'd about
>>>>>> bet that if you never get a dog you'll likewise experience some sort
>>>>>> of access issue. I think having a guide dog increases the amount of
>>>>>> access discussions, but I think all blind people universally need to
>>>>>> be prepared to advocate for ourselves.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>> Julie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/3/2011 9:31 AM, Tatyana wrote:
>>>>>>> Dear listers,
>>>>>>> I would like to ask you some questions about accessing public
>>>>>>> places .
>>>>>>> When taxi drivers don't want your dog to get into a car, what excuse
>>>>>>> do they
>>>>>>> use?
>>>>>>> What do ethnic restaurants greeters say when they don't let you in?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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