[nagdu] Churches

[Lyn Gwizdak]

Hi Margo,
I think we can reach out to these religious communities like Islam to work 
with them to figure out how their blind brethern can participate in their 
faith with their guide dogs.  This really needs to be done by other muslims. 
If we do too much, they can see us as trying to tell them how to live their 
faith - isn't that what is happening in the world today with the Islam vs 
the Christians?  You know, like whites telling blacks how to live.  I think 
NAGDU has been in contact with an Imam over the issue of guide dogs in 
muslim cabbies' vehicles on the job.  This has to be approached carefully as 
religious beliefs are a touchy issue with many people when we talk about 
their dogmas.

Not knowing very much about the practise of Islam or how things are done in 
the mosques, I don't know but it is worth it for blind, guide dog using 
muslims to talk to their Imams as they have been living in their faith.

I think this has to be approached by careful, kind persuasion because our 
laws cannot force guide dog access in houses of worship where the believers 
have their laws about dogs.

Christian churches are different because they are from a faith that our 
country was originally based on and christianity has no tenants against or 
for dogs - they're neutral on them.

What NFB or ACB could do is to educate Christian churches about blind people 
and guide dogs.  With all our school education activities, we may have 
overlooked our churches.

Lyn and landon
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Margo and Arrow" <margo.downey at verizon.net>
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] Churches


>I agree but we can and training programs can figure out ways aorund some of 
>the beliefs.
>
> margo andArrow
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
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>> You cannot force anything on religious belief with legislation.  That 
>> would definately violate the seperation of church and state.  they need 
>> the soft touch in educating about guide dogs.
>>
>> Lyn and Landon
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>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
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>>> Actually I probably didn't complete my thought. There probably are ways 
>>> around religious beliefs, but you do have to be careful, and legislation 
>>> and strong arming is not the way. That has to be handled with love, 
>>> compassion, and education sometimes.
>>>
>>> Cindy
>>>
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