[nagdu] walking in to objects

Sat Apr 14 14:14:56 UTC 2012

Julie J, you covered all the possibilities well, but you missed human
error.  Sometimes Ben is trying to lead me around something, but I am
distracted, or don't believe him, and brush into something.  And sometimes
he is doing his best, but there just isn't room.  If it's a stationary
obstacle and there isn't room, he should stop, but it usually happens when
we're working in a crowded situation, and a hole closes up faster than he
anticipated.
Often it is a canine error if I bump something, but I try to keep in mind
that it might also be that I am not following properly.
Tracy

> Hannah,
>
> Is she running you into the same things every couple of weeks?  If she's
> making the same mistake over and over, I'd be more concerned than if it
> is a new mistake.  Is the error a brush into something or a complete
> full on contact with the object?  If she's brushing you into things
> she's probably trying to get it right and just needs more practice.  If
> it's the major full body contact, then there is a very serious issue
> going on.  Perhaps she's distracted, didn't get enough training, is
> experiencing visual problems or doesn't have the cognitive skills to be
> able to judge clearance. It could also be that she is nervous or simply
> isn't cut out to be a guide dog.  If a clearance issue every couple of
> weeks is her sole issue then I'd also agree with your O&M person that it
> will take time.  To me a mistake every couple of weeks in the beginning
> wouldn't be concerning.
>
> I've been working with Monty for over two years and he will still brush
> me into things occasionally.  This time of year it is usually bushes or
> tree branches that are growing or putting out leaves or whatever.  They
> get bigger than they were through the winter.  I'm sure he's giving me
> the same space that he has all winter instead of accounting for the new
> growth.
>
> I'm not big into collar corrections.  I will usually make a big deal out
> of making contact with whatever it was.  If it's a tree branch I will
> grab it and give it a good shake while telling Monty no.   If he's
> having a particularly difficult day I will have him sit while I show him
> the problem.  Then I rework the situation, giving loads of praise as we
> go.
>
> HTH
> Julie
>
>
> On 4/14/2012 12:48 AM, Hannah Chadwick wrote:
>> I highly doubt it. I have a mobility instructor here who used to be a
>> guide
>> dog trainer for over 10 years. He's suggested a few things and told me,
>> "it'll take time". I feel like running in to things should not be
>> occurring
>> every couple of weeks...
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Larry D. Keeler
>> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 7:19 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>>
>> Can Pilot send a trainer out there?
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Hannah Chadwick"<sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 8:59 PM
>> Subject: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>>
>>
>>> Hey all,
>>> I know that bonding can take up to a year, but I also know that
>>> Princess
>>> shouldn't be walking me in to things. I honestly don't know what to do
>>> any
>>> more because I don't feel like correcting her is enough and that after
>>> a
>>> while she forgets about it altogether.
>>> Today I went to visit the University of Santa Cruz and we went on a
>>> tour.
>>> Princess for some reason walked me in to a pole and as usually I
>>> corrected
>>> her. This has occurred a few times since I last posted about it, and
>>> it's
>>> getting more difficult for me to trust her. I don't feel safe walking
>>> at
>>> night or in the dark now, and it's a horrible feeling.
>>> Any thoughts, suggestions, advice?
>>> Best, Hannah
>>>
>>>
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