[nagdu] question about chest pad

Mon Aug 27 10:57:26 UTC 2012

A soft dog wouldn't need a chest pad, a pronged or pinch collar, and they are used advisedly. The dogs who need them need them; I think maybe mine does sometimes, much as I hate to think of it, but I will do it with advice, I am sure.

CL

On Aug 27, 2012, at 12:52 AM, Juanita Herrera wrote:

> Yes, I'm totally surprised as well that people would use these. I have
> the softest dog in the world and I think that something like a chest
> pad, prong collar, or a pinch collar would totally break her. But I
> guess whatever works for certain individuals and their dogs. As you
> mentioned, Lynn, I was extremely specific as for the type of dog I
> wanted. Even now, if any concerns begin to bother me, I instantly call
> my field representative and he sees me immediately. I don't hold
> anything back, and I try to be as open as possible with my school.
> Juanita and Anise and Baby Benson
> 
> On 8/26/12, Lyn Gwizdak <linda.gwizdak at cox.net> wrote:
>> Juanita, I totally agree with you.  Pilot is the only school that uses these
>> 
>> things.  These are used much like sometimes people have to use a prong
>> collar on their dog.
>> 
>> As you know, dogs may start out being a bit too fast for some folks but with
>> 
>> time, the dog does slow down and the puppiness chills out.  My friends who
>> had thesse things for their harnesses, weren't even using them - they were
>> shown to me.  Her dog no longer needed it.
>> 
>> Sometimes, I think some people have a hard time in really giving a school a
>> 
>> very real detailed account of what they want in a dog and school and
>> prospective student do their best to ensure a good and appropriate match.
>> I'm surprised that Pilot still uses these things as I saw the one my friends
>> 
>> had 24 years ago when the schools weren't putting out the soft dogs they do
>> 
>> today and before many of the training and handling techniques we use today.
>> 
>> Lyn and Landon
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Juanita Herrera" <juanitaherrera1991 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 10:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] question about chest pad
>> 
>> 
>>> Wait, if a dog pulls too hard shouldn't the school not issue that dog
>>> to that individual in the first place? I mean, if the pull is too
>>> strong on the person shouldn't the school find a dog that is suitable
>>> for the person? That's just wat I've heard. I don't know, but I don't
>>> think a school should allow a dog to go home with a handler if it
>>> causes discomfort.
>>> Juanita and Anise
>>> 
>>> On 8/25/12, Lyn Gwizdak <linda.gwizdak at cox.net> wrote:
>>>> I've seen these chest pads when my friends here had Pilot Dogs.  The
>>>> spikes
>>>> 
>>>> are metal and rounded so they don't actually pierce the dog's skin -
>>>> nasty!
>>>> 
>>>> I think there were only two or three of these things on the pad. You can
>>>> find similar things in a pet shop on dog collars, but the ones Pilot
>>>> uses
>>>> are less sharp and more rounded.  You still don't want to give a hard
>>>> jerk
>>>> back on the harness handle with these things on.  But they do discourage
>>>> 
>>>> the
>>>> 
>>>> dog from pulling real hard on them.
>>>> 
>>>> Pssst! Don't let PETA folks see these! LOL!  Seriously, they aren't
>>>> visable
>>>> 
>>>> to the casual observer - unless they put their hand under the chest strap
>>>> 
>>>> of
>>>> 
>>>> a harness.
>>>> 
>>>> Speaking about PETA, they are doing something good for a change.  In
>>>> Oceanside, CA, part of San Diego Couonty, some idiots used duct tape to
>>>> attach a whole bunch of helium balloons to a tortois and the balloons
>>>> lifted
>>>> 
>>>> the reptile into the air and snagged in a tree.  The animal is safe and
>>>> healthy and being provided a new home.  I just saw on my Channel 10 News
>>>> Alerts (KGTV) that PETA has raised $2,500.00 for information that leads
>>>> to
>>>> the arrest and prosecution of the people who did the deed.
>>>> 
>>>> Lyn and Landon
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 4:34 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] question about chest pad
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> How does it work if it doesn't cause discomfort for the dog?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Julie
>>>>> On 8/23/2012 9:20 PM, rhonda cruz wrote:
>>>>>>  may has a chest pad. and it is meddle spicks.
>>>>>>  it doesn't hurt the dog not at all.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 23, 2012, at 7:13 PM, Meghan Whalen wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Are the spikes on the chest pad metal or rubber?  Do they ever cause
>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> rubbing and or soars on the dogs?  I have never heard of such a thing
>>>>>>> and am curious.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Meghan
>>>>>>> On 8/23/2012 8:43 PM, Criminal Justice Major wrote:
>>>>>>>> I've used the chest pad with both Freedom because he was very
>>>>>>>> strong.
>>>>>>>> Odie required it too, but only in the very beginning.
>>>>>>>> He only needed it when it came to us being around other guide dogs,
>>>>>>>> especially if it came to dogs who loved to compete.
>>>>>>>> Bibi
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