[nagdu] Pilot in 1987

Fri Feb 3 20:08:37 UTC 2012

I'll take rich and long

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Subject: Re: [nagdu] Pilot in 1987

Think I'd spend a lot of time on Broad Street!

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From: "Lisa belville" <missktlab1217 at frontier.com>
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> Ah, A dirty mind is a joy forever.
>
>
> I'd like an order of ambition, & a side of focus, and a large coffee. And
> could you super size that please? It really needs to last for the rest of
> the day.
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1217 at frontier.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
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> Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 12:57 PM
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>
>> My, the streets in Columbus have wonderful names!  Broad, High, Gay,
>> Rich,
>> and Long!
>> Tracy
>>
>>> This discussion of the test/achievement walk at Pilot brings back
>>> memories.
>>> I was there twice in 1987 and can still do that walk in my head. <grin>
>>> Of
>>> course I occasionally find myself on those very streets these days but
>>> don't
>>> go downtown much as I once did. For those who don't know, I live in
>>> Columbus
>>> but work for GDF remotely.
>>>
>>> They may have changed things but as I recall, the Pilot leash is the
>>> only
>>> one with the extra snaps needed to turn it into a muzzle of sorts.
>>> Because
>>> the leashes I'm familiar with from there had only a snap under the chin
>>> to
>>> close the loop of the muzzle, it was easy for the dog to break. My first
>>> dog
>>> routinely broke hers, unsnapping the muzzle part then chewing it
>>> viciously.
>>> Many a time I got off a bus with half a leash in my right hand.
>>>
>>> As for muzzling on the buses, prior to the ADA, that was a requirement
>>> of
>>> the Central Ohio Transit Authority that all dogs in training be muzzled.
>>> Silly, yes, but there you go. That requirement is no longer in place as
>>> I
>>> understand it.
>>>
>>> As for the test walk, as we knew it, the walk was designed to not only
>>> show
>>> you that you could work alone with your dog over a route, but to show
>>> the
>>> staff how you dealt with stress.
>>>
>>> I think there were merits to it but the pressure the instructors in my
>>> classes put on people was a bit much. They were all former military and
>>> ran
>>> it like a drill, not exactly helpful. I hear things have changed a lot
>>> and
>>> I
>>> like the new name of the walk.
>>>
>>> Yes, remembering the streets was important as you needed to know about
>>> where
>>> to turn for the bus stops. People could use whatever method they wanted
>>> to
>>> remember the route. The real test was if you could understand the
>>> differences between streets and alleys on the route, keep track of where
>>> you
>>> were and judge your crossings.
>>>
>>> I failed my first test walk because I didn't catch my dog veering right
>>> during a wide crossing and walking down the block, but on the street,
>>> not
>>> the sidewalk, and right toward a bus. I caught it but not in time to
>>> satisfy
>>> the instructor who was judging my walk. For you Pilot folks, it was Jay
>>> Gray. We laugh about it today. Not so much back then.
>>>
>>> We did go into the old Woolworth store along the route and had to
>>> purchase
>>> something. I think I bought candbars. I still think this is an excellent
>>> exercise.
>>>
>>> Here's the route we took back in 1987. I'd be curious to hear from
>>> recent
>>> grads if it's the same.
>>>
>>> Leave the gate near the relief area at Pilot. You're on Grubb Street.
>>> Turn
>>> right and go to the corner of Grubb and Town streets.
>>>
>>> At the down curb, turn right and walk down Town street with the traffic
>>> on
>>> your left. At the next corner, which is Town and Skidmore, turn right
>>> again.
>>>
>>>
>>> The next cross street is Rich Street. Cross here and at the up curb,
>>> turn
>>> right and walk maybe 10 feet to the bus stop on Rich street.
>>>
>>> Take the Number 10 bus and ask the driver to let you know when they get
>>> to
>>> Long and High.
>>>
>>> The nice thing about Columbus is that it's laid out in a grid pattern in
>>> the
>>> downtown and Pilot Dogs area and the grid runs pretty much true
>>> north/south.
>>>
>>>
>>> Our buses now have the automatic stop announcements but it's been my
>>> experience that drivers tend to turn them off or way down so asking is
>>> prudent..
>>>
>>> You get off the bus at Long and High. Back then it was just before Long
>>> Street so you'd turn left once off the bus and walk up to the corner
>>> with
>>> the traffic on your left. Then you'd turn left again to cross High
>>> street.
>>>
>>> At the up curb, you'd turn left, walking the way you'd come on the bus,
>>> south. You would next cross Gay Street, Broad Street and on the up curb
>>> of
>>> Broad Street, turn left and cross High street again. This is where I
>>> screwed
>>> up. <grin>
>>>
>>> On the up curb of Broad and High, turn right and walk along a very wide
>>> sidewalk in front of the Ohio State House. The next street you come to
>>> is
>>> State Street.
>>>
>>> Cross State and at the up curb, turn right to cross High Street yet
>>> again.
>>>
>>> On the up curb, turn left to head south on High Street. Along this block
>>> was
>>> where the Woolworth store was, about halfway down. Since the dogs back
>>> in
>>> my
>>> classes didn't have suggestive turn commands or find commands, you had
>>> to
>>> know where the door was and give a right turn command exactly there or
>>> the
>>> dog would turn into windows. You could ask for help from people but you
>>> were
>>> supposed to do it yourself. The instructor judging your walk would not
>>> talk
>>> to you at all unless you were in danger. You didn't get dinged for
>>> missing
>>> the door though or no one would have gone home with a dog. <grin>
>>>
>>> We'd been in this store before, several times so we had ideas of where
>>> it
>>> was along the block.
>>>
>>> Once you'd purchased your item, you left the store and turned right to
>>> continue down the block to the corner of Town and High streets where you
>>> turned right on the down curb.
>>>
>>> This street is where the bus stop is to go west on Town Street so you'd
>>> walk
>>> about halfway down the block, prior to the alley, and wait for the
>>> Number
>>> 10
>>> bus.
>>>
>>> You would ask the driver to let you off at McDowell Street, which is 2
>>> blocks shy of Pilot. This street has a light control.
>>>
>>> I want to say that the bus stop was just past McDowell, but I could be
>>> wrong
>>> on that one. At any rate, once at the down curb with Town Street in
>>> front
>>> of
>>> you, cross town with McDowell on your left and turn right. You next
>>> cross
>>> Skidmore then continue to the corner of Town and Grubb where you turn
>>> right
>>> and head for the gate on your left along that block and you're done.
>>>
>>> Tired yet? <grin> It's really a very nice walk and I'd be curious to
>>> know
>>> where you all go now. Done right, the concept is a good one and sort of
>>> mirrors what I think some of the O&M lessons are like at the National
>>> NFB
>>> centers, plus the dog of course.
>>>
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