[nagdu] When is the Connection Too Much?

Wed Jan 11 11:57:24 UTC 2012

They call them prison cells!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Parisian" <eggmann at shaw.ca>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 11:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] When is the Connection Too Much?


> If anyone ever kicked any of my dogs, one of for certain would be most 
> seriously injured, not including the dog.
>
> Doug: Do they make crates big enough for stupid humans?
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 9:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] When is the Connection Too Much?
>
>
>>I educate my guests.  I feel that when you come to my home you're coming 
>>to Holly's home as well.  I educate them about food, toys and treats. 
>>Also playing.  If they don't follow the rules, then Holly goes in her 
>>crate or on a short leash.  And if the guest doesn't listen to what I have 
>>to say and for instance tries to feed the dogs people food or bbones, 
>>well, I tend not to invite them over much.  I feel dogs are sort of like 
>>kids.  If you can't follow the rules on how I'd like you to treat them, 
>>how could I trust them to listen to what I wanted them to deal with my 
>>kids!  I had a woman come over to my house once.  She was a friend of the 
>>family.  But she never came to the house before.  I was stand on the porch 
>>when my little pet came out. Well, sort of snuck out when I reached in for 
>>something.  She was dressed nice and he pawed her for attention.  My 
>>intention was to take him back inside and put him in the back room sence 
>>he was never crate trained. Before I could grab him up, she kicked him. 
>>She has never been near my house again!  I would have peed on her leg if I 
>>could but I didn't think of it.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Steven Johnson" <blinddog3 at charter.net>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 7:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] When is the Connection Too Much?
>>
>>
>>>I would have to agree with Tony.  These actions in essence, are enabling 
>>>the
>>> dog to not do what it was trained to do, thus the behaviors on the part 
>>> of
>>> the handler, whether the dog is working or not, reinforce simply, bad
>>> behaviors.
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Toni Whaley
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 6:44 PM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] When is the Connection Too Much?
>>>
>>> Bill,
>>>
>>> I personally think it's inappropriate to use the dog's name in a 
>>> business
>>> letter. Regarding having the run of the house, I think that depends on 
>>> the
>>> nature of the dog. If the dog tends to be overly friendly especially 
>>> when
>>> food is around, I think the dog should be in a crate or on a tiedown. 
>>> Onn
>>> the other hand, if the dog doesn't really care about company and tends 
>>> to
>>> stay out of the way or disappears, I think it's OK. Of course, there's 
>>> the
>>> problem that the guests themselves may be more of a problem than the 
>>> dog;
>>> that is, getting the dog too excited. I've had dogs of both types. I've 
>>> also
>>> tended to keep my dog out of sight on Haliween. evening, both to prevent 
>>> the
>>> dog from getting too excited and running out the opened door and/or 
>>> scaring
>>> some of the children.
>>>
>>> Toni
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>> Behalf
>>> Of William Burley
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 7:10 PM
>>> To: NAGDU
>>> Subject: [nagdu] When is the Connection Too Much?
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I hope everyone is well.  I had an interesting discussion today with a
>>> longtime guide dog user.  She brought up the fact that some handlers 
>>> seem to
>>> take their relationships overboard with their guide dogs.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Some examples she gave were:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> .         Including the dog's name in a professional e-mail signature
>>>
>>> .         Allowing the dog to have run of the house, even when guests 
>>> are
>>> there
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> She gave some others but I am drawing a blank now.  I have not 
>>> experienced
>>> the two examples above but could see her point.  Have you guys dealt 
>>> with
>>> someone you thought took their relationship with their guide to an 
>>> unhealthy
>>> level?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Will
>>>
>>>
>>>
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