[nagdu] Advice Requested

GARY STEEVES rainshadowmusic at shaw.ca
Wed Jan 25 18:51:06 UTC 2012 

Hi:

When I got Bogart his stools were loose and soft. I got him off the food from the school which wasn't very good and had corn in it. We first switched to a low end higher quality food and then worked up to the food we are using now. It is Acana grasslands which has lamb, duck and trout. now on this food he generally has firm stools which are much easier to pick up then what I had for our first year together. This is Bogart's 5th food since I met him at school. He is a poodle so I do often worry that he isn't eating enough since he seems to have gas fairly often (burping and farting) when he isn't eating much but his weight and fintness  are good so maybe that is all he needs and he is just being poodlish.

Gary

----- Original Message -----
From: "Shannon L. Dillon" <shannonldillon at hotmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 10:01 am
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Advice Requested
To: nagdu at nfbnet.org

> 
> 
> Hi Mark.  I have a Fidelco female.  She's 
> awesome.  She had loose stools in the beginning, too.  
> My trainer recommended I give her slightly less food.  I 
> believe that worked a little bit.  I also found that her 
> stools were looser when she was stressed out.  It may just 
> be that you are both stressed because you are training and 
> everything is new for both of you.  
>  
> Later I switched my dog off the school's recommended food per my 
> vet's recommendations.  I was using Abady (that was what 
> the school recommended at the time) and the vet wanted me to try 
> something without grain because we wanted to see if she had food 
> alergies.  When we switched to duck and potato by Natural 
> Balance, her stools became these perfect little round balls. So 
> much better than the loose, cookie dough like stools she had on 
> the Abady.
>  
> Hope this helps.  Please feel free to contact me on or off 
> list if you want more information.
>  
> SHANNON L. DILLON
>  
> 
> > From: REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com
> > To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> > Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 16:49:17 +0000
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Advice Requested
> > 
> > Yes, the stools do not sound like they are normal. Normal 
> should be firm and well, easy to pick up.
> > I realize this is your first dog, so you probably wouldn't 
> know this. Combine that with the trainer who may ormay not be 
> treating this as normal and you are left floundering.
> > Cindy is right, do explore ways to get the stools healthy.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-
> bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray
> > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 6:19 PM
> > To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Advice Requested
> > 
> > I know this isn't your topic, but I am wondering if you have 
> thought to give less treats and get the dog's stool consistently 
> firm? What does the trainer say to do about this, and will that 
> trainer be coming to visit again? How do you know when the 
> training time is over? I have not received a pup from Fidelco so 
> don't know.
> > 
> > 
> > On Jan 20, 2012, at 5:14 PM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
> > 
> > > The dog is from Fidelco. It is a large male shepherd. 
> Because the placement is not over yet, my trainer is fully aware 
> of the situation. He only has problems with leuce wayst after a 
> particularly stressful day of training, or when he eats to many 
> treats, and probably a combination of both.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" 
> <cindyray at gmail.com>> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National 
> Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 5:34 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Advice Requested
> > >
> > >
> > >> Mark, I can't remember where your training is from. If the 
> dog has loose stools because of stress, maybe you should talk to 
> the school about that too? Does she often have loose stools? Or 
> is she a male because I forgot. <Grin>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Jan 20, 2012, at 4:27 PM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Well, the problem arises because it is less than 32 hear, 
> and because the pavement is so cold, some of the waist adheres 
> to it. especially when it is watery due to stress on the dog.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" 
> <cindyray at gmail.com>> >>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the 
> National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > >>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 5:16 PM
> > >>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Advice Requested
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> I don't know. After I pick up, I always scrape the bag 
> around where the dog went to make sure I get it all. I have 
> never had this issue before, though I am sure sometimes there 
> has been a little. Does the dog move around when it is having a 
> moving experience?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Cindy
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Jan 20, 2012, at 4:03 PM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Hi,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> As you know I recently received a guide dog. As every 
> guide dog handler knows, it is important to pick up after your 
> dog. I am doing this as best I can, however, sometimes there is 
> a "skid mark" of solid waist left behind on the concrete wich is 
> impossible to remove.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> The school office of disability services is giving me a 
> hard time about my dogs parking. The school says that I am not 
> doing a good enough job picking up the solid waist. According to 
> the school, the skid marks ground into the concrete when I pick 
> up after my dog are causing a problem. Suggestions, thoughts, 
> concerns?> >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Mark
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