[nagdu] I did it!

NCBootman ncbootman at gmail.com
Wed Jul 11 21:04:39 UTC 2012


Shannon,

You are welcome. Just remember, the trick is remain calm and collected 
yourself and have options. If you get stuck in creating a plan, write me 
offlist at ncbootman at gmail.com and I'll help you more with brainstorming.

Greg

-----Original Message----- 
From: Shannon Wells
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 2:03 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] I did it!

Greg, thanks for your insight. :)
Shannon
On Jul 11, 2012, at 1:59 PM, NCBootman wrote:

> Now, you are developing a plan. Good job! Get the paperwork so your 
> husband can take FMLA time if he needs to, talk to all the other folks who 
> can potentially help, don't forget to be thinking about what you'll do for 
> lessons for the girls since you homeschool, and have confidence. If 
> husband knows others will be helping, it won't be as big a stress for him. 
> Even consider little things like can another neighbor or relative fix 
> dinner or some other chore to help pick up some of your normal duties a 
> time or two. If he sees that this is important enough to plan ahead, it 
> will make him feel better when he does his part. Then, it's his part, not 
> all. Maybe he could even ask for some assistance from a co-worker so he 
> could go into the office a weekend day or evening while another person 
> takes care of the family.Spread all the love around.
>
> Take paper and figure out who might be able to help and what they might be 
> able to do. Get the team onboard now for when it happens and get that 
> application in. Have all the options you can and sit down with husband and 
> get input on what will help him. He may say he refuses to eat your mama's 
> yuck stuff but maybe he'd like to have help with the laundry. This is a 
> team effort. Think of it as a special time for your family. Work with the 
> girls so they can take more responsibility while mom is away whatever that 
> means for their age. Let everyone get as excited about this new dog as you 
> will be. When a mother used to go to the hospital to have a baby, 
> relatives, church, family members, all had to pitch in. Same thing, just 
> looks real different lol. If you are confident and not stressed, everybody 
> else will be and your training will go easier too.
>
> Greg
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Shannon Wells
> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 1:25 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] I did it!
>
> Marsha, I am going to talk to my sister who is in college this coming fall 
> but who is living very close by, but she won't know until she gets her 
> schedule. Of course, I haven't even been accepted, so I'm probably jumping 
> the gun, here. It's just a major concern. Once I get an actual acceptance 
> and an idea when class will be, I'll be talking to everyone around, so I'm 
> bound to get it figured out. Thanks.
> Shannon
> On Jul 11, 2012, at 11:59 AM, Marsha Drenth wrote:
>
>> Shannon,
>>
>> Is there another homeschooling family that could watch the girls during 
>> the
>> day? Or another church family that could do that same? At least if they 
>> go
>> to another home schooling family, they might continue their studies. I am
>> assuming your hubby can't do work from home? Have you thought about going 
>> to
>> a guide dog program that does all in home training? This would solve the
>> issue with hubby not being able to take off from work, but you would 
>> still
>> need to set aside time with someone to watch the girls to do the 
>> training.
>>
>> I am sure in the long run everything will work out, Good Luck!
>> Marsha
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Shannon Wells
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 11:29 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] I did it!
>>
>> I didn't say anything about my husband's family, because they do not 
>> factor
>> in. They are not available and I wouldn't want most of them to be. My
>> husband isn't the bad guy and I never said he was. His biggest concern 
>> about
>> taking the time off is that there is no one there at present to fill his
>> shoes, and he would have a huge amount of catching up to do. I'm not 
>> trying
>> to sound like I'm praying he will do what I want. I guess it came across
>> that way, because right now, that is the only solution I can see. I get
>> impatient sometimes, so I'm sorry if it came across that my husband and I
>> were arguing, because we're not. No one is mad at anyone. I believe he
>> understands how important it is to me, and I understand how important his
>> job is to him. The thing I keep telling myself is if it's meant to be, it
>> will and if it's not, it won't.
>> Shannon Wells
>> On Jul 11, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC) wrote:
>>
>>> Shannon,
>>> Prayer works, though it sounds like you are praying that your husband do
>> what you want and that sort of thing never ends well.
>>> Staying home for two or three weeks is a long time. It's not like a day 
>>> or
>> two with a sick kid.
>>> It's difficult on coworkers and on any work projects he's doing. It's 
>>> very
>> difficult to catch up when he gets back.
>>> His boss may give him the time under FMLA though that depends on if his
>> company offers that type of leave.
>>> If his company does offer FMLA, he will need to think about whether or 
>>> not
>> this is a good use of that leave. He may feel that it is not.
>>>
>>>
>>> You mention having a sister that may keep the girls. That will also be
>> disruptive. You still won't be around and they will know that. It's 
>> really
>> no different then a nanny or even a daycare.  Depending on their ages,
>> getting them in for a couple weeks will be a piece of cake. Daycares do 
>> some
>> neat stuff with kids these days so they may really enjoy it.  Either way,
>> you won't be home. This isn't worth hanging your husband up as the bad 
>> guy.
>>
>>>
>>> You did not mention his family as an option for looking after the girls.
>> Any reason why not?
>>>
>>> Be very careful with the argument "If you aren't willing to stay home, 
>>> you
>> shouldn't have kids".  The kids are here and unless I'm missing 
>> something,
>> it sounds like he's an involved dad.  He just isn't doing what you want 
>> when
>> you want.  Using this argument in this situation is unfair and unkind. 
>> He
>> may need or want to be at work just as badly as you need or want a dog.
>>>
>>> Also, be careful too with your dog application.  Fine to go ahead and 
>>> fill
>> it out, not fine to present him as the mean monster who is keeping me 
>> from
>> getting a dog.  You are setting him up to fail.
>>>
>>> This is a stressful time for all of you. Why fight with your husband 
>>> when
>> you don't need to? You have many many ways to solve this problem.
>>>
>>> You will need your husband to be on-board with this dog especially when
>> the team is new. You are trying to get what you want in a very ugly 
>> manner.
>> That won't bode well for your new dog or your marriage.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>> Behalf
>> Of Shannon Wells
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 9:45 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] I did it!
>>>
>>> Well, IMHO prayer always works. My girls have never been in daycare and
>> never had a nanny. My mom works for the school board so is not available.
>> Other family members either work, attend college over an hour away or 
>> just
>> won't keep them. I'm a homeschooler, as I've said, so my kids are used to
>> being here with me all the time. I do have a sister who might be able to
>> work out a schedule with my husband, though. As for whether he would want 
>> to
>> stay home with them, my opinion on that is, if you don't want to stay 
>> home
>> sometimes with your kids, then don't have any. I want another dog very 
>> much,
>> but my girls come first, at least for now.
>>> Shannon wElls .
>>> On Jul 11, 2012, at 9:22 AM, Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC) wrote:
>>>
>>>> Why does your husband need to be home with the girls?
>>>> Could grandma or a family friend do this?
>>>> Maybe you could get a temporary nanny or use daycare for those two 
>>>> weeks?
>>>> My husband wouldn't be able to take two weeks off either. It's not that
>> he wouldn't want to, he doesn't have the leave, and if he did, he'd 
>> prefer
>> to do something else with it. So would I.
>>>> Another option is for hubby to take fmla though I can understand why 
>>>> he'd
>> not do this.
>>>>
>>>> If it were me (and I have a kid too) I'd leave hubby out of this. 
>>>> Finding
>> a solution that doesn't involve him taking time off work will work better
>> then prayer in this case.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Shannon Wells
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 6:47 PM
>>>> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] I did it!
>>>>
>>>> Well, I did it! I applied to Pilot Dogs. I filled out the online form.
>> Still don't have the issue worked out with my husband being able to take 
>> off
>> work to be with my girls, but I'm still praying. Smile.
>>>> Shannon Nicole Wells, author
>>>> http://www.wildheartbook.com
>>>> http://oldtimechristian.blogspot.com
>>>> http://www.twitter.com/authorshannon
>>>> http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1826550903
>>>>
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