[nagdu] Swabbing for Explosive Trace Detection

Cindy Ray cindyray at gmail.com
Wed Jun 27 18:14:57 UTC 2012 

Actually, if you can just relax and go with the flow, something I'm not always so good at, flying isn't near the stress.


On Jun 27, 2012, at 1:09 PM, Michael Hingson wrote:

> Most of all, we have the control to make the experience light and fun.
> Doing so will help your local TSA person have a better day and it may help
> save a life.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Marion Gwizdala
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 11:05 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Swabbing for Explosive Trace Detection
> 
> Marsha,
>    I can fully appreciate the frustration with inconsistencies. As Mike and
> I have both shared, it are these inconsistencies that actualy make flying
> safer. It has nothing to do with our blindness and everything to do with the
> inability of one who is trying to beat the security system in an effort to
> do bad things. My best advice is to expect the inconsistencies and go with
> the flow!
> 
> Fraternally yours,
> Marion
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 11:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Swabbing for Explosive Trace Detection
> 
> 
>> Its that inconsistency that is so very frustrating about flying these 
>> days.
>> No two airports are the same, and no two airport employees treat me a cane
>> or guide dog user the same all of the time. And they wonder why people 
>> have
>> so much trouble when they go to fly, what they can take, what they can't
>> take, what to take off, what to do and not to do. *sigh*
>> 
>> Okay sorry rant over, LOL
>> 
>> Marsha
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Julie J.
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 9:44 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Swabbing for Explosive Trace Detection
>> 
>> I think inconsistency is actually consistent when it comes to the TSA.
>> I just flew earlier this month.  I had my cane but every time I went
>> through security how they wanted me to proceed and how they checked out
>> my cane was different.   I've just come to accept that security will be
>> a surprise every time.
>> 
>> Julie
>> 
>> 
>> On 6/27/2012 8:32 AM, Michael Hingson wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Actually, there are still inconsistencies.  I traveled somewhere in May
>>> where my hands were not swabbed.  I have yet to see any rule implemented
>>> %100 of the time.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Marion Gwizdala
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 05:11 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Swabbing for Explosive Trace Detection
>>> 
>>> Steve,
>>>     The information I was given indicated these new procedures were
>> expected
>>> to be fully implemented by the end of April. As with all things
>>> bureaucratic, perhaps it did not get implemented on the time line
>> expected!
>>> 
>>> Marion
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Steven Johnson"<blinddog3 at charter.net>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 6:57 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Swabbing for Explosive Trace Detection
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> When did this go into effect?  When I flew to get my new guide back in
>>>> May,
>>>> I had none of this occur.
>>>> 
>>>> Steve
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf
>>>> Of Marion Gwizdala
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 5:27 PM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Swabbing for Explosive Trace Detection
>>>> 
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>    Though I mentioned this in my previous message, swabbing for
>> Explosive
>>>> Trace Detection is done on anyone boarding a plane with an animal. It 
>>>> has
>>>> absolutely nothing to do with whether or not one touches the dog or that
>>>> the
>>>> dog is a service dog. The swab is an absorbent cloth that contains no
>>>> chemical. It is rubbed across the palm of the hands and placed in a
>>>> machine
>>>> that detects trace amounts of explosives.
>>>> 
>>>> Marion
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Margo and Arrow"<margo.downey at verizon.net>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 5:59 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw:
>>>> [Buddys-dogscoop]Fwd:[Blindattic]NewCompanyAnnouncement
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Well, probably, but they won't swab you if you don't touch the dog.
>>>>> 
>>>>> margo and Arrow
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Cindy Ray"<cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 5:33 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw:
>>>>> [Buddys-dogscoop]Fwd:[Blindattic]NewCompanyAnnouncement
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Oh, I missed the part about that. So what do you do. Oh, you just 
>>>>>> bring
>>>>>> them through with you, right? So if you do that, then they are going 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> have to wand you because who can say what set it off?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 26, 2012, at 4:03 PM, Margo and Arrow wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> the regs state that if you contact your dog while walking through the
>>>>>>> detector and after, they can swab your hands.  You can of curse touch
>>>>>>> the leash because you have to keep your dog under control but you
>> can't
>>>>>>> touch the dog.  also, no longer can we walk through the detector and
>>>>>>> have our dogs at sit and then call them through.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> margo and Arrow----- Original Message ----- From: "The Pawpower Pack"
>>>>>>> <pawpower4me at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:53 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw: [Buddys-dogscoop]
>>>>>>> Fwd:[Blindattic]NewCompanyAnnouncement
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Margo,
>>>>>>>> I was wondering about the swab thing.  When I flew to Montana in
>>>>>>>> April, my SSP (who interprets things into ASL for me) went through
>>>>>>>> security with me.  I had Laveau sit, walked through the detector
>>>>>>>> thing, and then called Laveau.  I turned around and out of nowhere,
>>>>>>>> these huge gloved hands grabbed my hands.  They weren't my SSP's
>>>>>>>> hands, and since I'm Deafblind--  and use ASL tactually-- my ssp
>>>>>>>> couldn't tell me what was going on with some guy basically removing
>>>>>>>> any ability I have for communication.  It was scary.  He was rubbing
>>>>>>>> the cloth thing on my hands, and finally, my SSP explained to me
>> about
>>>>>>>> swabbing.  Next time I'll expect it.
>>>>>>>> If I don't touch my dog while in security, will they still have to 
>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>> it? I need to find regulations about this.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Rox and the Kitchen Bitches:
>>>>>>>> Bristol, Mill'E, Laveau, Baylee,!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> "Dance, even if you have to warn others to get out of the way 
>>>>>>>> first."
>>>>>>>> http://pawpower4me.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>> pawpower4me at gmail.com
>>>>>>>> AIM: brissysgirl
>>>>>>>> 
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