[nagdu] Ownership of guide dog

Passle Helminski passle at roadrunner.com
Mon Mar 12 16:25:13 UTC 2012


Marion,

I will look for my ownership agreement. Yes, Ray did say that.    I 
have meetings in town soon but I will post my agreement to you when I 
return.

Passle


>Passle,
>    Well, I am getting conflicting information. It seems to me that 
>last August you shared that "we own our dogs as long as we are using 
>them as guides". I asked if you had the written agreement and you 
>only shared that this information came from Ray. If you have an 
>ownership agreement from Pilot, it would be very helpful. All we 
>have to go on right now is hearsay assertions - nothing objectively 
>in writing.
>
>Fraternally yours,
>Marion
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Passle Helminski" <passle at roadrunner.com>
>To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
>Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 10:06 AM
>Subject: Re: [nagdu] Ownership of guide dog
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>>  >I am a Pilot grad and I own my dog.
>>
>>Passle
>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>R.J.,
>>>    First of all, let me state that Pilot does not transfer 
>>>ownership upon completion of training. In fact, I am unsure if 
>>>they do at all or retain ownership ad infinitum. As for your 
>>>question of our stand on ownership, I would refer you to the June 
>>>2011 Braille Monitor and the NAGDU Guide Dog Consumers' Bill of 
>>>Rights.
>>>
>>>fraternally yours,
>>>Marion
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "RJ Sandefur" 
>>><joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>>>To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
>>>Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 10:40 PM
>>>Subject: [nagdu] Ownership of guide dog
>>>
>>>>What is your opinion of a guide dog Schools retaining ownership 
>>>>of the dog after training? I know some schools such as South 
>>>>eastern, and piolet dogs give ownership of the guide dog to the 
>>>>student after training. While others such as GDB retain 
>>>>ownership. Has the NFB made an offical stance concerning this 
>>>>issue? RJ
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