[nagdu] Story that I don't know what to think ab out

Thu Mar 29 16:16:41 UTC 2012

I am most certainly being bullied, and very inexperienced in the ways of the 
game. In other words, I don't know what to do, and am seeking advice. I am 
not going to meet with them again unless I have someone who is experienced 
in this sort of issue present.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Story that I don't know what to think ab out

> You do realize you are being bullied and intimidated right?
> Being nice doesn't even come into this, they have no choice but to meet 
> your needs.
> This isn't a friendship it's a business relationship.
>
> You are either very scared and bullied, or you are hiding something.
> Your school isn't that great if this treatment is going on.
>
> Know too that you can call a meeting. The person that takes control has 
> control.
> Know too that you can document any comments made to you.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> Of Mark J. Cadigan
> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:58 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Story that I don't know what to think ab out
>
> Rebecca,
>
>
>
> The janitor is not getting involved in any way that could jeopardize him 
> in
> any way. Also, I never said I was not concerned about his career.
>
>
>
> I know the people who have offered to help are doing it of there own free
> will, and are willing to help. I know they understand the potential risks
> inherent with going toe to toe with administration. I am going to stay at
> this school because of such people. I have people at this school who are
> willing to do anything to help. This is one of the reasons why this school
> is such a good fit for me.
>
>
>
> Recently, there has not been an opportunity for meetings. Without me 
> forcing
> the point, administration does not want to meet with me at this time.
> However, if I am summoned to a meeting, I guarantee, I will invite all the
> people who are helping to attend to help advocate on my side.
>
>
>
> All the meetings were at the start of the problem, before I realized the
> severity of it. Representatives of the guide dog school did talk to school
> administration with me. Subsequently, all communication has been either
> comments in passing, over the phone, or by email; however, not many by
> email.
>
>
>
> At this time, I don't want to upset the apple cart and force a meeting,
> until I have all my ducks in a row. Although I appreciate the help 
> provided
> by the people who are willing to help, they are not experts in guide dog
> acksess. I am in consultation with some people who are, and we are
> formulating an action plan.
>
>
>
> The people I want to be nice to are the staff of the office for students
> with disabilities. I can't afford to ruffle feathers there, because I have
> to work with them so much for accommodations and adapting materials for my
> classes.
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 10:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Story that I don't know what to think ab out
>
>
>>        And she offered of her own free will. She's an adult, she knows
>> what she's offering.
>> Your rationale just isn't adding up Mark. I'm sorry.
>> Janitors do carry a lot of weight, some might say more then your
>> professor.  You've got a guy willing to go to bat for you, yet you don't
>> seem worried about his career.  My guess is he and his coworkers are more
>> aware of you (and other students) then you realize.
>> I don't understand why you haven't taken up all the people who have
>> offered to help and have them attend meetings with you to sort this out.
>> These people are adults. They believe helping you is the right thing to
>> do. And you want to "be nice"
>> This just doesn't add up.
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Cindy Ray
>> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 10:06 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Story that I don't know what to think ab out
>>
>> You said you didn't want to use her help because it might bring undue
>> pressure to bear on her. I was just saying that you really don't have to
>> worry much about that if she is tenured. I would use absolutely everyone 
>> I
>> needed to use, but honestly, I wouldn't be willing to continue in a 
>> school
>> that gives me that much grief over the dog issue. Of course, that has its
>> down side, too. I don't know. In the end, you will have to do the things
>> that are best for you and it isn't might right to make that sort of
>> judgments. I was only stating that I think if she offers to help you with
>> a meeting, then you should do that, or at least I would strongly consider
>> it.
>>
>> Cindy
>>
>> On Mar 29, 2012, at 8:53 AM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>>
>>> Rebecca and Cindy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> How am I refusing to use help? I am taking help from several people. For
>>> example, the guide dog school, suggestions from this list, and a couple
>>> of friends of mine who are lawyers. Before I do anything, I consult with
>>> my lawyer friend for his opinion.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This woman who offered to help is a wonderful advocate, and has helped 
>>> me
>>> on several occasions. She has been helping from the side lines. I am
>>> trying to be a nice guy, because I will have to work with all the people
>>> in question for the next 4 years. I am only a freshman after all. I 
>>> can't
>>> afford to make enemies, or even worse bring scrutiny or pressure down
>>> upon people in the department who are willing to help.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I only told her that I did not think a meeting would be a good idea 
>>> after
>>> I called to set up a meeting, and got chewed out over the phone. Forcing
>>> the point, and having a face to face meeting will only serve to make the
>>> dean angrier. If I do have a face to face meeting, I will most certainly
>>> have someone with me as an advocate. Probably this professor who is
>>> willing to go to bat for me. But for now, I am pursuing other avenues.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The alternative avenues of approach that I am currently employing should
>>> have favorable results; however, I can't discuss them on list.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
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