[nagdu] private guide training

Thu May 31 20:27:04 UTC 2012

I hadn't completed any recent O&M lessons and they didn't deny me. I
think probably that's because they have changed and grown in the last
several years for the better, so your experience probably depends on
when you applied. I know they for sure want you to have good cain
skills and good o&m skills though. Anyway, hope Jessica finds a good
situation soon. Keep us posted and feel free to write me off list if
you need anything.
Laurel and Stockard

On 5/31/12, rhonda cruz <rhondaprincess at gmail.com> wrote:
>  hi jessica,
>  the  guiding  eyes  school is vary good.
>  as well,
>   my friend  from holland, got her first dog from there.
>
> On May 31, 2012, at 2:44 AM, Portia Scott wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Yes, GDB is known for their excellent dogs, and awesome reputation. I know
>> when I looked into applying though, they wanted a home interview. Oh, and
>> btw, if you havent completed your O&M lessons, but are decent, they will
>> deny you. They did that with me, anyway.
>>
>> Just thought I'd share my experience.
>>
>> Best wishes, and hope you find what you are looking for.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Portia.
>> On May 30, 2012, at 10:13 AM, Tracy Carcione wrote:
>>
>>> GDB seems to have the shortest classes, even for first-timers, and they
>>> also seem to get people into class pretty quickly.  And I know they have
>>> good dogs.
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>> I definitely want a dog ASAP I'm looking at other schools, too but
>>>> we'll
>>>> see.
>>>> Jessica
>>>>
>>>> On 5/30/12, Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC) <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> You should be able to just take the paperwork from Pilot and send it
>>>>> to
>>>>> a
>>>>> different school.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of Jessica Pitzer
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 5:45 PM
>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] private guide training
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh no, what I meant was whoever committed to me first, like of the
>>>>> trainer said okay I'll work with you, then I'd tell pilot I foudn a
>>>>> different avenue.
>>>>> That's all I meant. I don't think the private trainer thing is gonna
>>>>> work due to cost, so its going to have to be a school. I don't much
>>>>> rellish applying to a new school because i hate paperwork and doctors
>>>>> visits and the whoel mess plus i detest home interviews. I have
>>>>> nothing to hide btu I feel a lot of pressure. I don't much want a
>>>>> school where I have to stay as long as a first timer, either.
>>>>> So.. up in teh air right now. I'd love  to see the new survey maybe
>>>>> tha'td
>>>>> help.
>>>>> Jessica
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/29/12, Julie J. <julielj at neb.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Jessica,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You mentioned that it will come down to whether Pilot or the private
>>>>>> trainer comes through first.  I don't think that's a fair plan for
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> private trainer.  Training a dog from scratch can take anywhere from
>>>>>> 4
>>>>>> months to several years.  It can take weeks to months to find a dog
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> puppy.  Then maybe a year or more of puppy training or a few months
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> catch up if you start with an adult.  Then perhaps four to six months
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> actual guide training.  At the end of all that there is no guarantee.
>>>>>> The trainer might have to start the process all over with a second
>>>>>> dog.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But I'm concerned about what happens to all the trainers work and the
>>>>>> dog if Pilot finds a dog for you first, which I'd strongly guessing
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> will.  I don't think it'd be fair to a private trainer for them to
>>>>>> commit to all this time and work and a dog and then you change your
>>>>>> mind. Going through a private trainer to get a guide dog has some
>>>>>> advantages, but I don't think speed of placement is one of them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway it's something to consider.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Julie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/29/2012 9:13 AM, Jessica Pitzer wrote:
>>>>>>> I asked for a poodle, and just last week I wrote them and told them
>>>>>>> I'd accept a lab if they could absolutely not find me a poodle. they
>>>>>>> told me a poodle might take a long time as I want a female and they
>>>>>>> said finding one who will be good with kids, small dogs, and be on
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> calmer side will be hard as they ahve more energy. IDK. I thought
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> were calmer but I guess we'll see. Haven't heard back from them. I'm
>>>>>>> still pursuing the private route, because I really do want a poodle
>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>> it can work or a poodle cross, and the other hting is I really dont'
>>>>>>> wanna leave my son for 2 weeks, I guess it'll probably end up
>>>>>>> whether
>>>>>>> pilot comes trough or the private stuff first.
>>>>>>> Jessica
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/29/12, NCBootman<ncbootman at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> Perhaps you want to consider dropping your request for a specific
>>>>>>>> breed.
>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the breed you seek is not happy with small children, is it a good
>>>>>>>> breed
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> a guide dog? What happens when you find yourself amongst other
>>>>>>>> people's
>>>>>>>> kids
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> or have to pass by a daycare on one of your routes? I would not
>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> liability for myself because if our dogs harm someone else, as
>>>>>>>> handlers,
>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> are responsible. Even if the dog seems fine in a kennel, that can
>>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>>> once it is a working dog if by nature it is not child friendly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>>> ----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Jessica Pitzer
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:36 AM
>>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] private guide training
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, pilot jsut said that since I had a small child in the house
>>>>>>>> along
>>>>>>>> with 2 smaller dogs, that it would be harder to find a dog that is
>>>>>>>> both able to live with small dogs and children, and be the breed I
>>>>>>>> want. *shrugs*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/29/12, Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)<REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Jessica,
>>>>>>>>> Does your son have special medical issues?
>>>>>>>>> I ask because any dog from a school should meet this requirement.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is there more going on?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>>>> Of Jessica Pitzer
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 6:42 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>> Users
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] private guide training
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>> I'm wondering if anyone has Doug While's email, and or if any of
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> know of anyone who does a service similar to Doug's. I'm looking
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> private guide dog trainer either ot help me select a dog and train
>>>>>>>>> it,
>>>>>>>>> or to train a dog I select, that kind of thing.
>>>>>>>>> I'm not opposed ot the school route, but I'm waiting on the latest
>>>>>>>>> survey before I apply with any new schools and the one I'm on teh
>>>>>>>>> waiting list for says that uit'll be a while because I asked them
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> a dog who would be calm enough around my son not to hurt him.
>>>>>>>>> *shrugs*
>>>>>>>>> Anyway thanks all for the help.
>>>>>>>>> Jessica
>>>>>>>>>
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