[nagdu] Recall Issues

[rhonda cruz]

 hi chris, i think you should practice leash recall.
 at home.
 it works great.
 i do it with my dog every day.
 the recall is a good thing to learn.


On Apr 1, 2013, at 1:47 PM, Christo Thiardt wrote:

> Hi
> 
> No, I am referring to my dog running free in a park or open field.  He is
> wearing a play collar with bell and I am using a whistle and voice.
> 
> Thanks for your interest and response.
> 
> Rgds
> 
> Chris
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tami Jarvis
> Sent: 01 April 2013 18:59
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Recall Issues
> 
> Hi, Christo!
> 
> Are you talking about when the dog is in harness and having distraction
> issues? Or in other scenarios, like in the yard or something? I think of
> recall in off-leash terms, but that may be just me.
> 
> Dealing with distraction when the dog is in harness is easier, since you
> have hands-on control of the dog through the leash even when it is not
> listening to your voice commands.
> 
> In that case, the best way to start getting the dog's attention back to you
> is to turn it away from the distraction. I use a Gentle Leader on my poodle
> guide, which makes turning the poodle's head pretty easy even when she is in
> super stubborn mode. The important thing is to *never* use the GL for
> correction, but to exert a steady pull with only enough force to move the
> dog's nose (and thus it's eyes) away from the source of the distraction.
> This breaks the concentration on the distraction and also removes the reward
> from being distracted, since the dog is no longer getting what it wants.
> 
> With a neck collar, you can turn the whole dog, with the same end in mind.
> Break the concentration and remove the reward.
> 
> Either way, because you are exerting control, you are on the road to
> regaining your own leadership role. Ideally, you could lead the dog away
> from the other dog, but that's tough to do when it's your guide dog, for
> obvious reasons. I've been known to do that when my monster beast was
> younger and more stubborn, but only when I was really sure of the ground.
> When I'm not, then I would just get to stand there and prevent her from
> getting her way until she figure out that she wasn't getting anywhere. Sigh.
> She's nearly 7 now, so remembers to recall herself to work when she would
> rather be distracted. Then I can click/praise and move her on. So I use a
> dual command: Leave it! Forward!
> 
> The second command is to provide the positive behavior I want her to perform
> to replace the behavior I don't want. So I can reward her for continuing
> forward away from the distraction. Which is what I want.
> 
> That's a pretty general, basic approach. Can you give more details about the
> type of situation you may be dealing with?
> 
> hth,
> 
> Tami
> 
> On 04/01/2013 09:49 AM, Christo Thiardt wrote:
>> Hello
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Any experience with guide dog recall where the dog is so keen to 
>> dominate another that it ignores recall messages from its owner?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Would be good to hear.  Give hints/tips if you have any.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
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