[nagdu] Note from Moderator was Staff cuts at guide dog schools

Wed Apr 17 21:52:31 UTC 2013

I think some of these are older guide dog trainers who are semi-retired. 
they still are skilled but they may, for one reason or another, cannot be a 
full time trainer with a school.  I knew an owner-trainer who used the 
assistance of a retired trainer who had worked at a school but wasn't there 
anymore.

Lyn and Landon
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Note from Moderator was Staff cuts at guide dog schools

> This is a question I cannot answer, but I think they are people who have 
> been trainers at a school. I only know that a particular school sent such 
> a person to work with someone here.
>
> Cindy Lou
>
> On Apr 17, 2013, at 10:41 AM, "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Cindy,
>>
>> How do they determine if a trainer is trained?  I mean there aren't any 
>> government rules about what makes a guide dog trainer, well except for 
>> California.  So, I'm wondering what the criteria are that makes a person 
>> a guide dog trainer?
>>
>> Julie
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Cindy Ray
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:35 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Note from Moderator was Staff cuts at guide dog 
>> schools
>>
>> Oh, in reading this post that was quoted from mine, I meant to say that 
>> in home turn overs the school is contracting with trainers who are 
>> trained but currently not employed by a school. Really I should check for 
>> typos.
>> CL
>>
>> On Apr 17, 2013, at 10:29 AM, Marsha Drenth <marsha.drenth at gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> this will certainly be a very interesting topic. But with that said, 
>>> this could also become heated. so as cindy has done below, keep your 
>>> school name or the school name out of your post. I will not have any 
>>> school bashing in this thread, so don't even go there.
>>>
>>> Thanks cindy for starting the trend.
>>>
>>> Marsha drenth, NAGDU List Moderator
>>> Sent with my IPhone
>>>
>>> On Apr 17, 2013, at 10:14 AM, Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In the case of one of those schools, probably both, much of the 
>>>> renovation is updating the facility. In updating facilities, the 
>>>> organization can probably find other ways to improve them while in the 
>>>> process. They couldn't do that if they didn't do it now. I don't know 
>>>> if this is the time or not, but it is probably hard for us to determine 
>>>> that. In the case of one school, particularly in home turn overs, they 
>>>> are contracing with trainers who have been trained to prepare guide dog 
>>>> teams. Although I'm not sure how I feel about it, and the juryh may 
>>>> still be out on it, that could have bad moments, but it could also be 
>>>> an enriching experience. Other than that, I don't have much opinion 
>>>> about it as I have not called my particular school to seek assistance. 
>>>> I had some last year but I felt it was a little pointless; maybe part 
>>>> of that was my own attitude, but I don't think that was the whole of 
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> I think at some level we have to understand that times they are 
>>>> a-changing, and at least some of the things we are seeing may well have 
>>>> to happen. Seeing this in my state, too, with regard to our state's 
>>>> budget. So I guess I will just watch and wait.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Lou
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 17, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Deanna Lewis <DLewis at clovernook.org> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi list,
>>>>> I have heard of some very big changes in a couple of guide dog schools 
>>>>> recently, and am a bit worried by it.
>>>>> I know that two very well respected Guide Dog schools have had large 
>>>>> staffing cuts recently. Both schools let go of trainers/field reps 
>>>>> with years of experience. Also, both schools are also renovating their 
>>>>> dormitories. I am wondering if there is a connection? And also I am 
>>>>> worried that this may become a trend with the training programs? I 
>>>>> hope not.
>>>>> Do you know of any other schools who have done this recently?
>>>>> What do y'all think?
>>>>> I hope not to start a big debate, but I am just worried that many of 
>>>>> the schools are headed towards being less client driven.
>>>>>
>>>>> Deanna and Pascal
>>>>>
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