[nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to take pictures of your dog

Eve Sanchez celticyaya at gmail.com
Thu Feb 14 03:38:10 UTC 2013 

I am also a Lion and will be involved in a visible way at all the events
that are upcoming. I will keep Taylor's harness on though as it starts
conversation about how the Lions support the guide dog schools. As for the
color guard. I know nothing about color guard on foot, but if you are
interested in getting on horseback many communities have posses. I think it
would be difficult (hahaha) for your dog to keep up though. Eve

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 6:11 PM, d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net> wrote:

> yes we had a lady who was in the parade with her dog.
> She didn't want anyone else to come.
> Especially with a dog.
> She was a lion.
> So we have friends who are lions where we could set it up.
> I will ask early so we can get it started.
> Original message:
>
> Hi Dar,
>> To be in a parade, one must be associated with a group who is in the
>> parade.
>> I march in our LGBT Pride parade with a group I belong to - actually, I'd
>> have to split myself in twos or threes to march in all the groups I belong
>> to that are contingents in the parade! LOL!  Landon and I are also in our
>> neighborhoood Christmas Toyland Parade as part of our contingent from our
>> Blind Community Center.  We have our Center's bus in it with the people
>> who
>> can't walk but several of our members with guide dogs do walk in the
>> parade.
>> We decorate our dogs in holiday collars.  Landon has learned how to walk
>> in
>> the street in a parade from the many street demonstrations we've been in
>> over the years!  He has to teach the other guide dogs who NEVER walk in
>> the
>> street except for making street crossings. LOL!  We do have sighted help
>> in
>> helping us to keep in our contingent, tell us when to stop, turn, and to
>> go
>> after we stop to let the contingents to maintain proper spacing that keeps
>> the parade moving smoothly along.  Some people just go sighted guide and
>> heel their dogs.
>>
>
> For you, join a group that marches in your holiday parade and maybe you can
>> march or be on a float in it.  It's alot of fun and people enjoy seeing
>> guide and other service dogs in parades.  Remember that street pavement is
>> usually hotter than regular sidewalks.  Streets are blacktop which sucks
>> in
>> the heat and most sidewalks are white concrete which repells some of the
>> heat - depends on time of year and location.
>>
>
> For me to determine when I need to put Landon's booties on, I will place my
>> palm flat on the street.  If I go, "Yow!" and pull my hand off in only
>> seconds, it is bootie time!  If I can keep my hand there as long as I want
>> to keep it there without discomfort, well, Landon can go barefoot.  People
>> want to take Landon's picture in his booties is mainly because most people
>> never give a hot pavement a thought when they briong their dogs out in
>> parades - this happens in the Pride parade and street fairs because these
>> are held in the middle of our summer heat with the strongest sunshine.
>> Countless people have come up to me to thank me for putting booties on my
>> dog and they tell me about the poor dogs who has less than attentive
>> owners.
>> Those dogs are picking up each foot over and over because their pads are
>> burning on the blacktop!  Poor doggies!
>>
>
> Lyn and Landon
>>
>
>  "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is like
>> asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "d m gina" <dmgina at samobile.net>
>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 2:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to take
>> pictures of your dog
>>
>
>
>  I need to work with my dog with his booties.
>>> That is a swell idea in a parade to have him wear them.
>>> I would love to see us in the Christmas parade this year.
>>> How far advanced do you need to plan for this?
>>>
>>
>  Original message:
>>>
>>>> Hi Eve,
>>>> I can see what you mean about the labels, "partials or sighteds" and
>>>> "Totals" and the stigmas attached to them.  This sucks but is reality.
>>>> It
>>>> is like in the Black community light skinned or dark skinned and the
>>>> stigma
>>>> is more on the dark skinned as the totals are looked upon as less in the
>>>> blind community.  On both couonts it is wrong!
>>>>
>>>
>  You should NEVER play second fiddle to anyone else just because they may
>>>> possess more or full eyesight.  I've seen this behavior mainly in the
>>>> blind
>>>> schools where some people feel the need to dump on someone else - well,
>>>> the
>>>> totals.  Partials have some sight so they would be in the "sighted camp"
>>>> even though partials get crap from both sides - fully sighted (you're
>>>> not
>>>> really blind - you're faking it!) or totals who may begrudge partials
>>>> for
>>>> having some sighted privilege.  But we all - totals and partials -
>>>> really
>>>> get the crap from society that decides what we can or can't do based on
>>>> misconceptions, fear, and plain old bigotry rather than going to the
>>>> experts - those of us with the blindness.
>>>>
>>>
>  The truth is that we are all blind and we all have alot of challenges
>>>> although they may vary.  I have friends who are fully sighted, partially
>>>> sighted, and totally blind - makes no difference to me.  I judge them on
>>>> what kind of person they are.  Yeah, I'm a low partial - I use a guide
>>>> dog.
>>>> I used to be a high partial when I was a teenager and I rode my bike all
>>>> over town.  I agree, we should junk the labels and just become people
>>>> with
>>>> some extra issues to be dealt with.
>>>>
>>>
>  Oh yeah, I don't care who takes my dog's picture.  Landon's wound up on
>>>> people's Facebook! They all ask me first.  Landon was doing something
>>>> cute
>>>> like lie with his head up and his front legs crossed like he was
>>>> royalty!
>>>> I
>>>> saw the pix and thought they were very cute.  They didn't take my
>>>> picture -
>>>> just the dog.  The people who took the pix then asked me about guide
>>>> dogs
>>>> and I used it as a learning/teaching moment. I have some of these cute
>>>> pix
>>>> on my own Facebook timeline and i don't mind if my FB friends share
>>>> them.
>>>> Many of these friends love Landon!  LOL!  Oh, who knows how many pix get
>>>> taken of Landon with his booties on as we march in the Pride Parade!
>>>> Maybe
>>>> seeing Landon in booties will remind them to use booties on their own
>>>> dogs
>>>> on hot pavement.  One never knows.
>>>>
>>>
>  Take care,
>>>>
>>>
>  Lyn and Landon
>>>>
>>>
>
>  "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is like
>>>> asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Eve Sanchez" <celticyaya at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 6:02 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to take
>>>> pictures of your dog
>>>>
>>>
>
>   I have no problem with my dog getting her picture taken as long as no
>>>>> one
>>>>> talks to her and I am not in the picture without knowing. I may be
>>>>> having
>>>>> a
>>>>> fat day or not have my makeup on or something. My dog is not as vain.
>>>>> What
>>>>> does piss me off, in a side note, is the designation between sighted
>>>>> and
>>>>> totals. This always seems to come from the 'total' as they like to call
>>>>> themselves as seems to be a type of prejudice in that they feel they
>>>>> are
>>>>> more disabled or more blind than others. Sorry to vent on this, but it
>>>>> really pisses me off and I know I am not the only one who feels this
>>>>> way
>>>>> though many people will not say so. I would appreciate the terms going
>>>>> away. Thanks for the opportunity to get my word out. Eve
>>>>>
>>>>
>   On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 1:36 PM, cheryl echevarria
>>>>> <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>
>   Yes I am also with Lion International and the Brentwood Chamber of
>>>>>> Commerce and other Travel Agent Organizations.
>>>>>> But I do not let anyone come up to me and take a picture of me or
>>>>>> Maxx.
>>>>>> These are different situations.
>>>>>> Have a great day to all. Bright and sunny after the Blizzard. Um isn't
>>>>>> Nemo a fish and Captain Nemo for 20,000 leagues under the sea, I just
>>>>>> don't
>>>>>> know where they get the names of these storms from.
>>>>>> Lol.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>    Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY State
>>>>>> Leading the Way in Independent Travel!SNG Certified - Accessible
>>>>>> Travel
>>>>>> Advocate!Cheryl Echevarria, Ownerhttp://
>>>>>> www.echevarriatravel.com631-**456-5394reservations@**
>>>>>> echevarriatravel.comhttp://**www.echevarriatravel.**wordpress.com2012
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Norwegian Cruise Line University Advisory Board Member.
>>>>>> Affiliated as an independent contractor with Montrose TravelCST -
>>>>>> #1018299-10Echevarria Travel and proud member of the National
>>>>>> Federation
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the Blind will be holding a year round fundraiser for the
>>>>>> http://www.NFBNY.org <http://www.nfbny.org/> <http://www.nfbny.org/>
>>>>>> after Hurricane Sandy and
>>>>>>
>>>>>> other resources. Any vacation package booked between November 6
>>>>>> 2012-November 6, 2013 and vacation must be traveled no later than
>>>>>> 12/30/2014 a percentage of my earnings will go to the affiliate.  Also
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> you book a Sandals for couples or Beaches for families and friends
>>>>>> resorts
>>>>>> vacation, $100.00 per booking will go to the affiliate as well.  You
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> need to be a member of the NFB.org, just book through us.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>
>    From: lkeeler at comcast.net
>>>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 16:22:35 -0500
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to take
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> pictures of your dog
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>    Cheryl, sometimes I do and sometimes I don't.  I have a picture of
>>>>>>> Holly
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I with the bishop.  I also have a couple with the Knights of
>>>>>>> Columbus.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>  AIn
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> these cases, I allowed it to prove that these organizations will
>>>>>>> admit
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> approve of blind folks and there service animals.
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>; "nyagdu" <nyagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 12:05 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to take
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> pictures
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> of your dog
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>
>
>     Good morning everyone:
>>>>>>>> Nelson is busy shoveling the snow outside from Nemo, Blizzard 2013.
>>>>>>>> Anyway, while I was in Washington, D.C. this past week with some of
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you. I
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> was talking with some members of the Utah Chapter and a woman, who
>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  a member of the NFB, a guest in the hotel asked me if she could
>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> picture of Maxx.
>>>>>>>> I said no. She asked me why. Well first I said, "Because I do not
>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> dog all over social media from strangers that I do not know", she
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> became
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> quite obnoxious about it. I put it to her this way. I said are you a
>>>>>>>> parent, she said yes. Well would you like any of your family or
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> children
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to have there pictures taken by strangers posted all over the
>>>>>>>> internet.
>>>>>>>> That is not right.
>>>>>>>> Then she got it and understood.
>>>>>>>> Have you had the same issues. Sometime someone tells me that they
>>>>>>>> took
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> picture of me and the dog, and I get upset, only because they didn't
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ask
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and the same issue. I should be the one to post pictures and videos
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and maxx if I want, but not strangers.
>>>>>>>> Cheryl
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>     Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY State
>>>>>>>> Leading the Way in Independent Travel!SNG Certified - Accessible
>>>>>>>> Travel
>>>>>>>> Advocate!Cheryl Echevarria,
>>>>>>>> Ownerhttp://www.**echevarriatravel.com631-456-**5394reservations
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @echevarriatravel.comhttp://**www.echevarriatravel.**wordpress.com2012
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Norwegian Cruise Line University Advisory Board Member.
>>>>>>>> Affiliated as an independent contractor with Montrose TravelCST -
>>>>>>>> #1018299-10Echevarria Travel and proud member of the National
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Federation
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  of the Blind will be holding a year round fundraiser for the
>>>>>>>> http://www.NFBNY.org <http://www.nfbny.org/> <http://www.nfbny.org/>
>>>>>>>> after Hurricane Sandy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and other resources. Any
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> vacation package booked between November 6 2012-November 6, 2013 and
>>>>>>>> vacation must be traveled no later than 12/30/2014 a percentage of
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> earnings will go to the affiliate.  Also is you book a Sandals for
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> couples
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> or Beaches for families and friends resorts vacation, $100.00 per
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> booking
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> will go to the affiliate as well.  You do not need to be a member of
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> NFB.org, just book through us.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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