[nagdu] Guide dogs and community events like parades

Eve Sanchez celticyaya at gmail.com
Fri Feb 15 03:07:45 UTC 2013 

Probably depends on the community too. San Diego is much bigger than most.
It's in the top 10 isn't it?   i suggest everybody check out their areas.
Eve    Oh wow, I just did something to my computer causing the moniter to
be covered by multi colored squares. Unless it's my eyes acting up. haha

On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Lyn Gwizdak <linda.gwizdak at cox.net> wrote:

> Eve,
> I think it used to be that the city, town, or other sponsors of parades
> didn't charge groups marching a fee.  With all the budget cuts and
> astronomical fees the city imposes on organizers of parades, they have
> foound that they must pass the buck - so to speak - on to the participants.
> Wish it wasn't so.  It would be great to have guide dog users, puppy
> raisers in parades!
>
>
> Lyn and Landon
> "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is like
> asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eve Sanchez" <celticyaya at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <
> nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 7:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide dogs and community events like parades
>
>
>  Lyn, I am surprised about the fees. What I mean is that most events do
>> not
>> charge for the non-profit groups or at least make it minimal. A couple of
>> years ago I even got my old chapter a space at the farmer's market so that
>> we could educate and fundraise at the same time. I never did work with
>> dogs
>> in 4H, but that would be a good source also. If someone wants to get
>> involved in the community and is not affiliated with an organization,
>> contact the extension office and get with the dog club. Since they are so
>> often involved with puppy raising, they would probably love to see the
>> finished project meaning your guide dogs. I know of a girl in Ohio that
>> runs marathons with her dog. I will stick with hiking myself. Oh, and a
>> friend in San Luis Obisbo who surfs with his guide (as if he needs her to
>> find the shore). haha   Whatever you do, have fun doing it. Eve
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Lyn Gwizdak <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Hey, I'm going to change the subject line for this.  I have told about
>>> the
>>> civic events I participate in with my dog.  What kinds of things do
>>> listers
>>> do in their own communities?
>>>
>>> Eve, you're right on this about participating in parades.  Many 4H clubs
>>> have guide dog puppies on floats or walking during community parades.
>>> Some
>>> parade organizers want a participation fee for marching in their parade.
>>> usually these fee go to pay for the expenses of putting on the parade -
>>> security, police, street closures, etc.
>>>
>>> These kinds of events are great!  They are fun and a way to further
>>> educate the public about guide dogs - people LOVE dogs and puppies.  I
>>> like
>>> that idea of having local NFB chapters being in local parades and having
>>> a
>>> table at a street fair.  The fees for these activities vary with the
>>> event
>>> and location.  Our blind community center used to do a booth at a street
>>> fair until the fee got too high to make it worth the effort for us.  This
>>> may not happen in smaller towns that have a street fair.  County fairs
>>> are
>>> great places to do this as well.  One year, there was a guide dog puppy
>>> and
>>> guide dog demonstration at our County Fair.  This was done along with
>>> other
>>> working dog demonstrations.  My dog always was soooo interested in the
>>> ducks that the herding dogs corralled into a pen - especially my
>>> shepherds!
>>>  LOL!
>>>
>>> Lyn and Landon
>>>
>>> "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is like
>>> asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eve Sanchez" <celticyaya at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <
>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 7:46 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to take
>>> pictures of your dog
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, to the person wanting to be in a parade with their guide dog, If
>>> you
>>>
>>>>  are not already involved in an organization that participates in
>>>> parades,
>>>> you could instigate. I am guessing you may be involved with a local NFB
>>>> chapter, get them motivated to be in a parade then set up a booth at the
>>>> end of the route if there is something going on and use the opportunity
>>>> for
>>>> education or just have fun.   Pretty much any group you are involved in
>>>> could do something. Do you work? Does your spouse work? Do your kids
>>>> belong
>>>> to clubs or sports groups? Everyone is welcome in community parades, it
>>>> just takes signing up. I have done this before with my 4H club and plan
>>>> on
>>>> getting my writing group in one this year. If you do not know how to
>>>> proceed, contact you local Chamber of Commerce. Have fun and your dog
>>>> will
>>>> totally enjoy it, as long as you take care of him like Lyn suggested
>>>> with
>>>> booties or whatever is needed. Blessed Be. Eve
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Kody Keplinger <kodytheduff at gmail.com
>>>> >wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Marsha, if it's all right, I'd like to comment on the orginal
>>>> discussion?
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Personally, I'd be bothered, whether I was asked or not, by someone
>>>>> wanting
>>>>> to take a picture of my dog (especially if they expected me to be in
>>>>> it).
>>>>>  To me, wanting a picture of me with a guide dog means that they see me
>>>>> as
>>>>> something worth noting, something "odd" or "unusual" - why else take a
>>>>> photo?  It's one thing if it's a friend who wants to keep a memory,
>>>>> but a
>>>>> stranger is just not okay. I am not all right with being seein as
>>>>> something
>>>>> "cool" for people to remember. If they asked, I'd be polite and say no,
>>>>> but
>>>>> if they didn't, I'd be pretty infuriated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, if they just wanted a picture of the dog because it was pretty
>>>>> (hey, I
>>>>> LOVE pictures of dogs!) then that's different. But if it's the fact
>>>>> that
>>>>> it's a GUIDE DOG that they're interested in, I'm not cool with that. My
>>>>> guide dog - just like my CCTV or my cane - is to benefit me, not to
>>>>> bring
>>>>> amusement to others.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope that makes sense.  I get pretty sensitive about people making a
>>>>> big
>>>>> deal about my disability, and taking a photo is just one way that
>>>>> happens.
>>>>>  And again, this is just coming from a place of not having a dog yet,
>>>>> but
>>>>> it's my immediate reaction upon hearing the discussion in this thread.
>>>>>
>>>>> And again, Marsha, I hope it's all right that I came back to this
>>>>> thread
>>>>> since I was discussing the original point? If not, sorry!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Marsha Drenth <
>>>>> marsha.drenth at gmail.com
>>>>> >wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > Ok this thread goes no further. Its about blindness, but not guide >
>>>>> dogs.
>>>>> > so unless we can all relate it to our pups, no more posting on this
>>>>> subject.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thank you,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Marsha drenth, NAGDU List Moderator
>>>>> > Sent with my IPhone
>>>>> > http://****adventureswith2feet4paws.**blo**gspot.com<http://blogspot.com/>
>>>>> <http://**adventureswith2feet4paws.**blogspot.com/<http://adventureswith2feet4paws.blogspot.com/>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Feb 12, 2013, at 6:01 PM, "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > Gee, Eve,
>>>>> > > This all soounds like a dialog out of the LGBT community when > >
>>>>> people
>>>>> > dump on the "straight-acting" who can "pass" in straight society and
>>>>> >  >
>>>>> the
>>>>> > "out, prouod and loud" types who make the straight acting ones >
>>>>> cringe.
>>>>> The
>>>>> > "straight acting" folks cringe because I am not a part of that camp.
>>>>> >  >
>>>>> Us
>>>>> > out and visible folks see this and we tend to diss the other folks -
>>>>> which
>>>>> > I try not to do.  No different whether it's LGBTs , blind folks, or >
>>>>> other
>>>>> > disabled folks.  Makes my head hurt! LOL!  I've known partially blind
>>>>> folks
>>>>> > acting like this to the totally blind.  I once knew this partially
>>>>> sighted
>>>>> > woman who was actually - she admitted it - that she was embarrassed
>>>>> > to
>>>>> > be
>>>>> > around the totals - and around guide dog users.  Well, guess what? >
>>>>> She
>>>>> > lost the remainder of her vision and got a guide dog!
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Yeah, like I said in my previous post, some totally blind have > >
>>>>> dissed
>>>>> > those of us with some sight.  Unfortunately, I have seen this alot >
>>>>> among
>>>>> > some NFB members!  I've been made to feel not as good in NFB because
>>>>> > I
>>>>> have
>>>>> > some usable sight.  But, I just blew that all off - can't hide being
>>>>> blind
>>>>> > or LGBT and feel that folks just have to get over themselves about >
>>>>> it.
>>>>> > I
>>>>> > am not ashamed to be blind, use a white cane or guide dog.  And I >
>>>>> think
>>>>> you
>>>>> > are the same way.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Larry, yeah, we need to stop the divisions between those who have
>>>>> > remaining sight and those who do not.  We all lose as a community >
>>>>> while
>>>>> we
>>>>> > all fight over who has sight or not.  I agree with you guys.  I am >
>>>>> glad
>>>>> > that there isn't so much of that going on here in our blind community
>>>>> > in
>>>>> > San Diego. Amounts of vision people have is pretty fluid with eye
>>>>> > conditions that improve or go south!
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Lyn and Landon
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship
>>>>> > > is
>>>>> > like asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
>>>>> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eve Sanchez" > > <
>>>>> celticyaya at gmail.com
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog > >
>>>>> Users"
>>>>> > > <
>>>>> > nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> > > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 2:52 PM
>>>>> > > Subject: Re: [nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to >
>>>>> > take
>>>>> > pictures of your dog
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >> I agree with most everything that you said except that I always >
>>>>> >> see
>>>>> > the, I
>>>>> > >> hate to say it, 'totals' thinking they are better as they are more
>>>>> > blind or
>>>>> > >> really blind. I have dealt with most of my life, never fitting in
>>>>> > anywhere
>>>>> > >> and even had to deal with when i was getting my present dog, from
>>>>> > another
>>>>> > >> student.  All of that aside, I love your chopstick analogy. Great!
>>>>> > Blessed
>>>>> > >> Be. Eve
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 2:32 PM, d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>> I need to work with my dog with his booties.
>>>>> > >>> That is a swell idea in a parade to have him wear them.
>>>>> > >>> I would love to see us in the Christmas parade this year.
>>>>> > >>> How far advanced do you need to plan for this?
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> Original message:
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> Hi Eve,
>>>>> > >>>> I can see what you mean about the labels, "partials or sighteds"
>>>>> > >>>> and
>>>>> > >>>> "Totals" and the stigmas attached to them.  This sucks but is
>>>>> > reality. It
>>>>> > >>>> is like in the Black community light skinned or dark skinned and
>>>>> > >>>> the
>>>>> > >>>> stigma
>>>>> > >>>> is more on the dark skinned as the totals are looked upon as >
>>>>> >>>> less
>>>>> > >>>> in
>>>>> > the
>>>>> > >>>> blind community.  On both couonts it is wrong!
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> You should NEVER play second fiddle to anyone else just because >
>>>>> >>> they
>>>>> > may
>>>>> > >>>> possess more or full eyesight.  I've seen this behavior mainly
>>>>> > >>>> in
>>>>> the
>>>>> > >>>> blind
>>>>> > >>>> schools where some people feel the need to dump on someone >
>>>>> >>>> else -
>>>>> > well,
>>>>> > >>>> the
>>>>> > >>>> totals.  Partials have some sight so they would be in the >
>>>>> >>>> "sighted
>>>>> > camp"
>>>>> > >>>> even though partials get crap from both sides - fully sighted
>>>>> (you're
>>>>> > not
>>>>> > >>>> really blind - you're faking it!) or totals who may begrudge
>>>>> partials
>>>>> > for
>>>>> > >>>> having some sighted privilege.  But we all - totals and > >>>>
>>>>> partials -
>>>>> > really
>>>>> > >>>> get the crap from society that decides what we can or can't do >
>>>>> >>>> based
>>>>> > on
>>>>> > >>>> misconceptions, fear, and plain old bigotry rather than going to
>>>>> > >>>> the
>>>>> > >>>> experts - those of us with the blindness.
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> The truth is that we are all blind and we all have alot of > >>>
>>>>> challenges
>>>>> > >>>> although they may vary.  I have friends who are fully sighted,
>>>>> > partially
>>>>> > >>>> sighted, and totally blind - makes no difference to me.  I judge
>>>>> them
>>>>> > on
>>>>> > >>>> what kind of person they are.  Yeah, I'm a low partial - I use a
>>>>> guide
>>>>> > >>>> dog.
>>>>> > >>>> I used to be a high partial when I was a teenager and I rode my
>>>>> > >>>>  >
>>>>> >>>> bike
>>>>> > all
>>>>> > >>>> over town.  I agree, we should junk the labels and just become
>>>>> people
>>>>> > with
>>>>> > >>>> some extra issues to be dealt with.
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> Oh yeah, I don't care who takes my dog's picture.  Landon's wound
>>>>> > >>> up
>>>>> on
>>>>> > >>>> people's Facebook! They all ask me first.  Landon was doing
>>>>> something
>>>>> > cute
>>>>> > >>>> like lie with his head up and his front legs crossed like he was
>>>>> > royalty!
>>>>> > >>>> I
>>>>> > >>>> saw the pix and thought they were very cute.  They didn't take
>>>>> > >>>> my
>>>>> > picture
>>>>> > >>>> -
>>>>> > >>>> just the dog.  The people who took the pix then asked me about >
>>>>> >>>> guide
>>>>> > dogs
>>>>> > >>>> and I used it as a learning/teaching moment. I have some of >
>>>>> >>>> these
>>>>> > cute pix
>>>>> > >>>> on my own Facebook timeline and i don't mind if my FB friends >
>>>>> >>>> share
>>>>> > them.
>>>>> > >>>> Many of these friends love Landon!  LOL!  Oh, who knows how many
>>>>> > >>>> pix
>>>>> > get
>>>>> > >>>> taken of Landon with his booties on as we march in the Pride >
>>>>> >>>> Parade!
>>>>> > >>>> Maybe
>>>>> > >>>> seeing Landon in booties will remind them to use booties on >
>>>>> >>>> their
>>>>> own
>>>>> > dogs
>>>>> > >>>> on hot pavement.  One never knows.
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> Take care,
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> Lyn and Landon
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship
>>>>> > >>> is
>>>>> > like
>>>>> > >>>> asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
>>>>> > >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> > >>>> From: "Eve Sanchez" <celticyaya at gmail.com>
>>>>> > >>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog >
>>>>> >>>> Users"
>>>>> > >>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> > >>>> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 6:02 PM
>>>>> > >>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to
>>>>> take
>>>>> > >>>> pictures of your dog
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> I have no problem with my dog getting her picture taken as long
>>>>> > >>> as
>>>>> > >>> no
>>>>> > one
>>>>> > >>>>> talks to her and I am not in the picture without knowing. I may
>>>>> > >>>>> be
>>>>> > having
>>>>> > >>>>> a
>>>>> > >>>>> fat day or not have my makeup on or something. My dog is not as
>>>>> vain.
>>>>> > >>>>> What
>>>>> > >>>>> does piss me off, in a side note, is the designation between
>>>>> sighted
>>>>> > and
>>>>> > >>>>> totals. This always seems to come from the 'total' as they like
>>>>> > >>>>> to
>>>>> > call
>>>>> > >>>>> themselves as seems to be a type of prejudice in that they feel
>>>>> they
>>>>> > are
>>>>> > >>>>> more disabled or more blind than others. Sorry to vent on this,
>>>>> > >>>>> but
>>>>> > it
>>>>> > >>>>> really pisses me off and I know I am not the only one who feels
>>>>> this
>>>>> > way
>>>>> > >>>>> though many people will not say so. I would appreciate the >
>>>>> >>>>> terms
>>>>> > going
>>>>> > >>>>> away. Thanks for the opportunity to get my word out. Eve
>>>>> > >>> On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 1:36 PM, cheryl echevarria
>>>>> > >>>>> <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com
>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> Yes I am also with Lion International and the Brentwood Chamber
>>>>> > >>> of
>>>>> > >>>>>> Commerce and other Travel Agent Organizations.
>>>>> > >>>>>> But I do not let anyone come up to me and take a picture of me
>>>>> > >>>>>> or
>>>>> > Maxx.
>>>>> > >>>>>> These are different situations.
>>>>> > >>>>>> Have a great day to all. Bright and sunny after the Blizzard.
>>>>> > >>>>>> Um
>>>>> > isn't
>>>>> > >>>>>> Nemo a fish and Captain Nemo for 20,000 leagues under the
>>>>> sea, > >>>>>> I
>>>>> > just
>>>>> > >>>>>> don't
>>>>> > >>>>>> know where they get the names of these storms from.
>>>>> > >>>>>> Lol.
>>>>> > >>> Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY State
>>>>> > >>>>>> Leading the Way in Independent Travel!SNG Certified - >
>>>>> >>>>>> Accessible
>>>>> > Travel
>>>>> > >>>>>> Advocate!Cheryl Echevarria, Ownerhttp://
>>>>> > >>>>>> www.echevarriatravel.com631-******456-5394reservations@**
>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>> > echevarriatravel.comhttp://******www.echevarriatravel.****
>>>>>
>>>>> wordpress.com2012
>>>>> > >>>>>> Norwegian Cruise Line University Advisory Board Member.
>>>>> > >>>>>> Affiliated as an independent contractor with Montrose > >>>>>>
>>>>> TravelCST -
>>>>> > >>>>>> #1018299-10Echevarria Travel and proud member of the National
>>>>> > Federation
>>>>> > >>>>>> of
>>>>> > >>>>>> the Blind will be holding a year round fundraiser for the
>>>>> > >>>>>> http://www.NFBNY.org <http://www.nfbny.org/> <
>>>>> http://www.nfbny.org/> <
>>>>> http://www.nfbny.org/> <
>>>>> http://www.nfbny.org/> <http://www.nfbny.org/
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >>>>>> after Hurricane Sandy and
>>>>> > >>>>>> other resources. Any vacation package booked between November
>>>>> > >>>>>> 6
>>>>> > >>>>>> 2012-November 6, 2013 and vacation must be traveled no later >
>>>>> >>>>>> than
>>>>> > >>>>>> 12/30/2014 a percentage of my earnings will go to the >
>>>>> >>>>>> affiliate.
>>>>> >  Also
>>>>> > >>>>>> is
>>>>> > >>>>>> you book a Sandals for couples or Beaches for families and >
>>>>> >>>>>> friends
>>>>> > >>>>>> resorts
>>>>> > >>>>>> vacation, $100.00 per booking will go to the affiliate as >
>>>>> >>>>>> well.
>>>>> >  You do
>>>>> > >>>>>> not
>>>>> > >>>>>> need to be a member of the NFB.org, just book through us.
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>>  From: lkeeler at comcast.net
>>>>> > >>>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>> > >>>>>>> Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 16:22:35 -0500
>>>>> > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting
>>>>> > >>>>>>> to
>>>>> > take
>>>>> > >>>>>> pictures of your dog
>>>>> > >>>  Cheryl, sometimes I do and sometimes I don't.  I have a picture
>>>>> > >>> of
>>>>> > >>>>>>> Holly
>>>>> > >>>>>> and
>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>> I with the bishop.  I also have a couple with the Knights of
>>>>> > Columbus.
>>>>> > >>>>>> AIn
>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>> these cases, I allowed it to prove that these organizations >
>>>>> >>>>>>> will
>>>>> > admit
>>>>> > >>>>>> and
>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>> approve of blind folks and there service animals.
>>>>> > >>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> > >>>>>>> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
>>>>> > >>>>>>> To: "nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>; "nyagdu" <nyagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> > >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 12:05 PM
>>>>> > >>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to
>>>>> > >>>>>>>  >
>>>>> >>>>>>> take
>>>>> > >>>>>> pictures
>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>> of your dog
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>>  Good morning everyone:
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Nelson is busy shoveling the snow outside from Nemo, >
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Blizzard
>>>>> > 2013.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Anyway, while I was in Washington, D.C. this past week with
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>  >
>>>>> >>>>>>>> some
>>>>> > of
>>>>> > >>>>>>> you. I
>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>> was talking with some members of the Utah Chapter and a >
>>>>> >>>>>>> woman,
>>>>> who
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> was
>>>>> > >>>>>>> not
>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>> a member of the NFB, a guest in the hotel asked me if she >
>>>>> >>>>>>> could
>>>>> > take
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> a
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> picture of Maxx.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I said no. She asked me why. Well first I said, "Because I
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> do
>>>>> not
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> want
>>>>> > >>>>>>> my
>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>> dog all over social media from strangers that I do not know",
>>>>> > >>>>>>> she
>>>>> > >>>>>>> became
>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>> quite obnoxious about it. I put it to her this way. I said >
>>>>> >>>>>>> are
>>>>> you
>>>>> > a
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> parent, she said yes. Well would you like any of your family
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> or
>>>>> > >>>>>>> children
>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>> to have there pictures taken by strangers posted all over the
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> internet.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> That is not right.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Then she got it and understood.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Have you had the same issues. Sometime someone tells me that
>>>>> they
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> took
>>>>> > >>>>>>> a
>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>> picture of me and the dog, and I get upset, only because they
>>>>> > didn't
>>>>> > >>>>>>> ask
>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>> and the same issue. I should be the one to post pictures and
>>>>> videos
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> of
>>>>> > >>>>>>> me
>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>> and maxx if I want, but not strangers.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Cheryl
>>>>> > >>>  Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY State
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Leading the Way in Independent Travel!SNG Certified - >
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Accessible
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Travel
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Advocate!Cheryl Echevarria,
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Ownerhttp://www.******echevarriatravel.com631-456-******
>>>>> 5394reservations
>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>> > @echevarriatravel.comhttp://******www.echevarriatravel.****
>>>>>
>>>>> wordpress.com2012
>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>> Norwegian Cruise Line University Advisory Board Member.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Affiliated as an independent contractor with Montrose >
>>>>> >>>>>>>> TravelCST
>>>>> -
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> #1018299-10Echevarria Travel and proud member of the >
>>>>> >>>>>>>> National
>>>>> > >>>>>>> Federation
>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>> of the Blind will be holding a year round fundraiser for the
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> http://www.NFBNY.org <http://www.nfbny.org/> <
>>>>> http://www.nfbny.org/> <
>>>>> http://www.nfbny.org/> <
>>>>> http://www.nfbny.org/> <
>>>>> > http://www.nfbny.org/>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> after Hurricane Sandy
>>>>> > >>>>>>> and other resources. Any
>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>> vacation package booked between November 6 2012-November 6, >
>>>>> >>>>>>> 2013
>>>>> > and
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> vacation must be traveled no later than 12/30/2014 a >
>>>>> >>>>>>>> percentage
>>>>> > of my
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> earnings will go to the affiliate.  Also is you book a >
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sandals
>>>>> for
>>>>> > >>>>>>> couples
>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>> or Beaches for families and friends resorts vacation, $100.00
>>>>> > >>>>>>> per
>>>>> > >>>>>>> booking
>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>> will go to the affiliate as well.  You do not need to be a >
>>>>> >>>>>>> member
>>>>> > of
>>>>> > >>>>>>> the
>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>> NFB.org, just book through us.
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