[nagdu] guide dogs in seminary

[Tami Jarvis]

Good call! It never hurts to have the positive reminders about the 
results of the inclusion and everything else NAGDU exists to advocate 
for. /smile/ Discussing and pondering and even just complaining about 
the remaining problems that require advocacy is, in a way, what we're 
about...

But it's too easy to focus on defining the problems that need to be 
solved to remember what can be expected from the solution!

Well, we keep threatening to actually get up in time to go to church 
here some Sunday, so I suppose I will find out about the taking the 
guide dog to church thing here in the small town. /smile/

Tami

On 02/16/2013 12:45 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
> Tami, that's why I sometimes post about going to church functions with
> Holly.  So that we also here the other side and we know that everything
> isn't all bad!
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tami Jarvis" <tami at poodlemutt.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
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> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 1:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dogs in seminary
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>> Eve,
>>
>> Yup! It's true. You can show up with your guide dog to church and be
>> booted without a thing to do about it. They can discriminate like the
>> wind if that's what they want to do!
>>
>> Every now and then, we do get to hear from someone to whom this has
>> actually happened. Sigh. It does leave the guide dog user in question
>> with a heck of a choice. Do they leave the dog behind and worship
>> there anyway? It's a very individual choice. Some choose to attend
>> sans dog; others choose to go elsewhere.
>>
>> Private clubs can also discriminate legally, being exempt from the ADA
>> and other such inconveniences. Sigh.
>>
>> Seems like a lot of guide dog users do take their dogs to worship and
>> are welcomed, so that is the bright side. /smile/ People do the right
>> thing by choice even if the law doesn't make them.
>>
>> Tami
>>
>> On 02/15/2013 07:15 PM, Eve Sanchez wrote:
>>> Does this mean that we could be denied in churches and other religious
>>> spiritual places and events? Do we need to ask permission to worship?
>>> I really would like this clarified and to whether or not this is even
>>> true. Sounds horrible if it is. Well, I guess, my dog is welcome in my
>>> temple at least. Blessed Be. Eve
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I don't think they can deny you access if you are visiting her at a
>>>> seminary. If their students are eligible for Pel grants, then I am
>>>> almost sure they can't deny you the right to visit your friend and
>>>> to bring your dog.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 15, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Martha Harris wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>> I have an access question. I want to visit my friend for a few
>>>>> days, and she lives in the dorm on campus at her seminary. They
>>>>> said, since they are a church-related organization, the ADA doesn't
>>>>> apply to them. So, I'm not covered under title three of the ADA,
>>>>> but am I covered under fair housing or any other laws? They also
>>>>> cited allergy concerns, which I know isn't allowed under ADA.
>>>>> Thanks for the help; I'm so confused.
>>>>>
>>>>> Martha
>>>>>
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