[nagdu] Private club exemption

[Lyn Gwizdak]

Costco and Sams Club are memberships to shop there but you can walk in the 
door and tell the door person that you are interested in a membership and 
you go to a counter and buy your membership.  I used to belong to Sams and I 
did have my dog with me when I walked in to buy my membership.  I go to 
Costco with a friend who has a membership and have never had any access 
problems with my dogs.

Yeah, country clubs and other exclusive clubs that get NO government money 
at all may be a different story.  But then again, who would want to belong 
to a private club that hates dogs and would make you leave your dog home? 
Not me.

I've said it in the past that many people like dogs and we tend to have more 
of a problem with people paying too much attention to our dogs than who 
don't want us around at all with the dogs.  For me, if my dog isn't welcome, 
niether am I. I only leave my dog home ONLY IF I deem the activity to be one 
where my dog will be uncomfortable or unsafe - like a very loud, dark, 
crowded bar!

Lyn and Landon
"Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is like 
asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steven Johnson" <blinddog3 at charter.net>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
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Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 4:59 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Private club exemption


> Yes, , the college is still receiving federal funding in the way of 
> Federal
> Student Financial Aid.  When we are talking exclusive, it basically refers
> to a private entity that does not advertise to the greater and general
> public.  Some think that Cosco or Sam's have exclusive membership, but
> remember, these entities do advertise to the greater public.  Country 
> clubs,
> or legal associations could be an example of a private entity that 
> exclusive
> membership.  One cannot simply go up to the door and ask to be come a
> member.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray
> Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 6:36 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Private club exemption
>
> Yes, but does that include restaurants that are exclusive. The University 
> of
> Kansas has an alumni club that has a restaurant involved with it; you have
> to be a member to be allowed to eat there, unless you are invited as a
> guest. They still have to allow the dogs in, don't they?
>
> CL
>
> On Mar 8, 2013, at 6:14 PM, Steven Johnson wrote:
>
>> However, when it refers to private organizations, it is only those
>> that have exclusive membership.
>> Steve
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dailyah
>> Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 4:49 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: [nagdu] Private club exemption
>>
>> Jessica (and CL),
>>
>>  42 USC Section 12187 is what you're thinking of.  This is where it's
>> stated that both private clubs and religious organizations are exempt
>> from having to allow any kind of service dog.
>>
>> Dailyah
>>
>> Here's what it says, exactly:
>>
>> "The provisions of this subchapter shall not apply to private clubs or
>> establishments exempted from coverage under title II of the Civil
>> Rights Act of 1964 (42 U.S.C. 2000-a(e)) [42 U.S.C. 2000a et seq.] or
>> to religious organizations or entities controlled by religious
>> organizations, including places of worship."
>>
>>
>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, March 8, 2013 8:19 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Access Rights?
>>>
>>> No, you should not have to bring proof that the dog is a guide dog.
>>> Up
>> scale doesn't change anything. What do you mean "private." Do you have
>> to join or go with someone who belongs?
>>>
>>> CL
>>>
>>> On Mar 8, 2013, at 9:17 AM, Jessica Diaz wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello
>>>> My husband and i want to eat at this more upscale american
>>>> restaurant that sells funnel cake. On the website when i was
>>>> browsing the menu, it says no dogs of any kind in plain view. when i
>>>> called to ask about it, the man said i have to bring papers for
>>>> Saunders and Figby. Is this legal? I thought i remember hearing
>>>> something about if the business is a private one the laws are 
>>>> different.
> thanks so much.
>>>> Jessica Diaz
>>>>
>>>
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