[nagdu] dogs and mosh pits don't mix

Mark J. Cadigan kramc11 at gmail.com
Sun Mar 17 18:35:00 UTC 2013 

Julie,



Thank you so much for the crate. I measured my available Flore space, and it 
will fit, although just barely. The fact that it folds flat will allow me to 
slide it under my bed when not in use, which is the only way I'd have a 
prayer of storing it. I'd have no room to walk with it set up. The open 
space in my dorm measures 5 by 4 and is mostly covered by the crocheted rug 
that my dog sleeps on.



Yes, my dog is crate trained, and I'm not concerned that he will attempt to 
escape, my statement about the other foldable crates I have seen not being 
sturdy enough is they are made of a sort of nylon mesh, over a springy wire 
frame. The ones at the local pet store look like they would rip extremely 
easily. The other design I have seen is a cage constructed out of thin bars 
although sturdy, I don't have the space to store it. The third option I have 
looked at is just a standard kennel, like the ones the dog trainers have in 
the back of the vans, but these don't collapse at all, and I'd never have 
the space. The way you have descried the canvas fold flat design sounds like 
it is sturdy, however, I would be able to easily collapse it when not in 
use.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] dogs and mosh pits don't mix


> Mark,
>
> I have a fabric crate big enough for your dog if you want it.  I got it 
> for Monty to be used in my office, but never used it.  It's big, like 
> really huge, maybe 3 by 4 by 3 feet.  It folds down flat, but still is 3 
> by 4 so you could easily slide it under a bed.    The fabric is a canvas 
> sort of stuff with some sort of waterproof coating.  I wouldn't use it in 
> a heavy downpour, but for a small bit of moisture it would be fine.  There 
> are screens for ventilation.  It zips to close.  I'm sure a dog who was 
> intent on getting out could chew through, but if your dog is crate trained 
> and relatively calm in a crate, he should be fine.
>
> Anyway it's just taking up room in my basement, so if you want it let me 
> know.
>
> Julie
> On 3/16/2013 7:13 PM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>> Janice,
>>
>> I personally have not seen one large enough, and the ones I have seen are 
>> not that sturdy. But, I'm certain they exist, I just have never seen one. 
>> I'd love any recommendations. The other thing, is if it was big enough, 
>> I'd have to measure my available Flore space to see if I could even set 
>> one up.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janice Toothman" 
>> <janice.toothman at verizon.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 7:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dogs and mosh pits don't mix
>>
>>
>>> Hi Mark,
>>> Have you thought of the collapsible crates that you can store away 
>>> folded up until needed? Of course, I do not know if they make one big 
>>> enough for your GSD since I recall he was around 100 lbs.
>>> Janice
>>> On 3/16/2013 12:49 PM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>>>> The concert was fun, thanks. Unfortunately I don't know of anyone in 
>>>> the dorm responsible enough to baby-sit the dog. Dorm life is not a 
>>>> bastion of responsibility. Furthermore school policy forbids leaving 
>>>> the dog alone in the dorm, or asking a student to baby-sit. I don't 
>>>> like that policy, but I can't fight every policy I don't like. At least 
>>>> my dog doesn't do anything disruptive when left alone, just wines.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have thought of getting a crate, but just have no room. My dorm is 
>>>> 200 square feet, and I simply have nowhere to put it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry D. Keeler" 
>>>> <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 11:50 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dogs and mosh pits don't mix
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> How was the concert?  Those Murphies are roudy folks!  When I braught 
>>>>> Holly home, I didn't really leave her for a month or so.  Then, I 
>>>>> would leave her for short periods.  I also had my kids take her out 
>>>>> sometimes. Now, if I have to leave her, she has my little dog or my 
>>>>> wife usually here.  She still sits by the door but she also gets up to 
>>>>> messing with Pez or visiting Carol. And, if Carol has to go with me, 
>>>>> Pez baby sits her! I'm sure they both come back in the bedroom, curl 
>>>>> up and sleep until I get back.  But, of course this works because I 
>>>>> usually have kids, wife ande family constantly coming through and, 
>>>>> Holly knows everyone loves her!!! Don't know about dorm room though. 
>>>>> Maybe if you have a good friend or someone who you trust and will sit 
>>>>> with your dog, leave the dog with them for short periods and slowly 
>>>>> increase the time the dog spends over there.
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J. Cadigan" 
>>>>> <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 12:35 AM
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] dogs and mosh pits don't mix
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Today I went to a dropkick Murphy concert. Because dogs and mosh pits 
>>>>>> don't mix, I left the dog at my parent's house. My dog just sat by 
>>>>>> the door and whimpered the entire time, he did not bark or anything, 
>>>>>> just laid by the door and softly whimpered the entire time I was 
>>>>>> gone. He would not drink or do anything. My question is, if I had to 
>>>>>> leave him with a "dog sitter" for a long time, how would I get him 
>>>>>> used to not being with me. I can't leave him alone in my dorm for a 
>>>>>> multitude of reasons, so he has no practice staying home alone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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