[nagdu] Elevator doors

Fri Mar 29 03:45:12 UTC 2013

Hahahaha    I have found that cleavage helps too, but I can not rely
on that any more than I could rely on a sighted person. Eve      Oh, I
do rely on my guide dog though. (NAGDU connection).

On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Lyn Gwizdak <linda.gwizdak at cox.net> wrote:
> Some trainer said to use sighted people to help in elevators??? Huh??? Where
> does that trainer work?  What a totally crappy attitude.  Oh, I get it -
> you're supposed to take that little blow-up sighted person out of your
> pocket and inflate him like Wiley Coyote after the Roadrunner rolls a rock
> on him.  Hmmmm.
>
> Yeah, Eve, I do elevators the same as you do.  I have found that most
> sighted people don't want to lift a finger to help unless you are a
> sniveling, helpless-acting little cute blind girl - which I am not!  So, I
> just "man up" and be independent and do stuff on my own.  If I really do get
> into a jam, well I do get help then.  Good grief! LOL!
>
> Lyn and Landon
> "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is like
> asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eve Sanchez" <celticyaya at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 8:43 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Elevator doors
>
>
>> I REALLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEMS HERE. FIRST IT IS VERY EASY TO
>> STAY NEAR THE BUTTONS AFTER PUSHING IT AND IF IT SEEMS THERE ARE A LOT
>> OF PEOPLE COMING OFF, THEN PUT YOUR FINGER TO THE BUTTON TO HOLD THE
>> DOOR OR REOPEN IF IT STARTS TO CLOSE. WHEN WALKING INTO THE ELEVATOR,
>> IF IT STARTS TO CLOSE ON YOU, JUST PUT AN ARM UP TO STOP IT. MOST
>> ELEVATORS AFTER ALL OPEN FROM THE MIDDLE SO EITHER SIDE WILL WORK. AND
>> AS FOR THE TRAINER SAYING TO RELY ON SIGHTED PEOPLE; WELL THAT IS DAMN
>> RUDE. WE WANT INDEPENDENCE OR WE WOULD NOT BE GETTING GUIDE DOGS TO
>> WALK OURSELVES. SAME GOES FOR COMPUTER PROGRAMS AND BASICALLY
>> EVERYTHING ELSE. WHY MAKE THINGS ACCESSIBLE AND THEN TELL US TO FIND A
>> SIGHTED PERSON FOR HELP. JUST MY THOUGHTS. BY THE WAY, I LOVE DOING
>> ELEVATORS. LOVE HOW TAYLOR TAKES ME TO THE BUTTONS NO MATTER WHERE
>> THEY ARE SITUATED AND THEN BACKS UP TO SEE WHICH DOOR WILL OPEN FIRST.
>> SHE IS A REAL DOLL. EVEN IF SHE IS CURRENTLY BEING NAUGHTY BY BARKING
>> AT THE DOGS OUTSIDE. BLESSED BE. EVE
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Sherri <flmom2006 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> They do the same on escalators too, just get off and stand there while
>>> people pile up behind them.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "JULIE PHILLIPSON" <jbrew48 at verizon.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 6:34 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Elevator doors
>>>
>>>
>>> One problem I have consistently noticed is that when you are with other
>>> blind people   they go ahead and get off and then stop.  It never fails
>>> to
>>> amaze me!   know one behind them can get out before the door closes.  I
>>> always put my hand over the door now so it can't close and then hold it
>>> until my dog is clear.  I wish people would remember they have to go left
>>> or
>>> right because there is often a wall in front of you, and then figure out
>>> where to go from there.  riginal Message -----
>>> From: "Star Gazer" <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 12:03 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Elevator doors
>>>
>>>
>>>> I remember having this same problem. I think the sensors are set at
>>>> human
>>>> waist height not dog height.
>>>> I never found a good solution. And Dar is right, a sighted person won't
>>>> always hold the door. Either there isn't one around, or they aren't
>>>> thinking.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d m gina
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 11:52 AM
>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Elevator doors
>>>>
>>>> Tracy,
>>>> Seeing eye and I had a fight over this one. the lady I argued with was
>>>> Kim.
>>>> At this time or shall I say that time she was an apprintes.
>>>> I like putting the dog on the opposite side of the closing door on the
>>>> elevator.
>>>> Then my back side gets hit with the door not the dog.
>>>> I was forever told, seeing eye doesn't do this.
>>>> I said, they do now.
>>>> I was told a sighted person would always hold the door.
>>>> My reply was,
>>>> In your dreams.
>>>> She didn't like that either.
>>>> Original message:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been having trouble with elevator doors.  The elevators in my
>>>>> office building close very fast.  I try to put my hand on the door to
>>>>> stop it closing, but it's tricky to hold the door and keep myself and
>>>>> Ben both out of the way of the people getting out.  Once in a while,
>>>>> some thoughtful person will hold the door for me, but other times, all
>>>>> the people get out and the door starts to close, so Ben refuses to
>>>>> start in, wisely enough, and I end up waiting for the next one and
>>>>> hoping
>>>>
>>>> I can get in before it closes.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's pretty annoying.
>>>>> Tracy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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